“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

M a n s d a v e n s, the last name. (Pause.) The first (gesturing) T a n z. 1487, 1535, dying in Turkey. Three children and a wife who was German. The personality then irresponsible but full of gaiety, with some effeminate characteristics from an earlier 9th century life. (Pause.) A tendency then to run from problems, and a fear of settling in one place.

A musical talent but without the discipline or desire to perfect the gift. A series of petty crimes and a violent death as a direct result of business endeavors.

Now. (Pause.) Late 17th century. China. Again as a male. This time of very poor circumstances, but of somewhat moral caliber. The lowest class of merchant dealing however with foreigners in a border town, an outpost.

(Pause.) You were a member of a band of such men, dealing honorably enough with wares, but cut off from the main stream of civilized endeavors. A Manchurian encounter here, with hordes coming from another country some 50 years previous, their descendants still living in the mountain passes.

There is a curiosity however that is highly redeeming, but there is not a well-established pattern that has been developed, by which the personality can consistently learn and grow. The rigidity becomes too demanding and the impulse toward freedom is fought vigorously.

More freedom should be allowed in many respects, but more freedom should be allowed to others also. (Pause.)

Deepest abilities are not being developed because of the basic rigid attitudes. There is deep distrust of the male, but this is based mainly upon the difficulties in the 15th-century personality. These are projected outward, you see, and then reacted against.

Indeed. Do not blame me. I did not name you, perhaps you were bubbly. You left school in the sixth grade, but in your town you were considered fairly educated, you see. There was a Miss Thompson’s School for Girls. Taught by a maiden lady in her home.

A very bland response. It will not be ignored, but the response will be so bland that it will seem your communication was not understood.

There was a challenge involved, implied perhaps, and I assume it will not be taken up but it will be understood. It will be sidestepped. The reply will be polite in comparison. (Pause.) The man who receives it will understand it. A man to whom he shows it will not. No meeting will result as a direct result.

(Offhand the Ann connection meant nothing to John. But he said the bar connection could very well apply to Hazelton, PA, and that the Ann could be connected through this. John could not say about the large tree, however.

(John said he did not give his missive to Philadelphia the same interpretation as Seth, when he wrote it; but that Seth’s interpretation could be correct, and therefore the results could very well be as Seth predicts.

(10:31. Jane said she may have had a vague image of the long narrow bar while speaking. She resumed at the same slow pace, but in a fairly good voice, at 10:47.)

I will help you rely upon yourself to better advantage, but I will not make your decisions for you, nor allow you to use me, in that respect. I mean this quite kindly.

Give us a moment please… We find we do not believe that he is interested in the kind of relationship that you have in mind. He is somewhat sentimentally intrigued, but he is not about to change the framework of his days, and he is not resolute. He realizes that basically you expect what he cannot give. There will be sentiment. There will not be any basic long-term commitment.