“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

Now, first, Ruburt is having some success in turning the focus of his attention away from the symptoms, and if he continues and remembers, then his progress will be speedy. He followed my suggestions several times today, with good results.

In sleep, you do inhabit other planes, as I have told you. The term “spirit guides” is not the best, and Ruburt disapproves of it. The idea is quite legitimate and sound, however. I have on many occasions been with you both during such instances. As you progress, you will be able to remember more and more about such encounters.

There is no substitute for the training that you receive as you learn the knack of remembering your dreams. The very training helps you manipulate more effectively in both ordinary waking and dream conditions.

If you call on me to help you in a dream projection, I will help you, though you may or may not remember the dream projection or my help. Joseph will find himself more likely to remember simple projections that do not involve any featured levitation. These will be the easiest for you, Joseph, to recall.

You should try willing yourself into another room. When you awaken in the middle of the night, try such an experiment. Your projections do involve you in extensive levitations from the dream state, but you recall only a few. The most extensive traveling is done in nightly excursions, but it is easiest to remember those dream projections that occur during naps in the day, simply because the waking consciousness is more alert.

If possible, you should make an effort to conquer the fear involved with levitations, for the fear prevents you from recalling such experiences. Projections of a kind do also occur while the normal waking consciousness is up and about its normal chores. These are rarely remembered: that is, the waking consciousness retains no memory of them.

You had one brief experience before this one but did not remember, where you walked along the banks of a misty river landscape. You had several other later projections that same evening that you did not recall.

As I mentioned earlier, you do often accompany each other in your projections and I often am with you also. I give you direct experience during your projections to implement our sessions. These lessons remain a part of your total personality, though they have not been remembered in your terms thus far.

You may take your break and I shall continue. If you keep your mind on me when you give your projection suggestions, it will be easier for you to remember our encounters.

I have told you that some portion of our sessions involves projection. The degree varies from session to session. There will be a time when Ruburt will project out of his body during sessions and remember what transpires while I speak through his body. When projections occur now he is not consciously aware of them. These things are not forced, you see. On other occasions we meet, so to speak. I will go into this perhaps soon, for there are the similarities here and significances, involving states of consciousness used by both Ruburt and myself, and the type of projection achieved. These have bearing on the clearness or undistorted nature of the material. Less satisfactory projections cause distortions, you see, that are characteristic features of this state of consciousness at that time.