“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

In sleep, you do inhabit other planes, as I have told you. The term “spirit guides” is not the best, and Ruburt disapproves of it. The idea is quite legitimate and sound, however. I have on many occasions been with you both during such instances. As you progress, you will be able to remember more and more about such encounters.

The woman was quite real, but existed in another plane of activity. She was a survival personality in your terms. You projected to her system of reality and the environment was pseudophysical, the projection of her own thoughts made real in objective terms within the system.

Some of your environment under such conditions and at certain stages does represent what many occultists call thought-forms. In one legitimate projection of yours, Joseph, you formed a vehicle, I believe. Perhaps it was a plane, so that you would not be frightened. The flying was a fact, you see, the plane was a thought-form.

Some of the people in your dreams will be actual people you know who are also projecting. Others will be survival personalities. In some cases according to your own level of projection, some will be going about their normal lives within other planes or systems. They may or may not perceive you.