“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

Now. Experience is not built up layer upon layer, along the lines of continual moments. Basically, experience has nothing to do with time as you know it. Experience is felt in terms of intensities and value fulfillment. As you should know, an experience lasting only a few moments can outweigh in significance a much more lasting one. The dream experience is rather independent of physical time, and its experience, or rather its intensity—my error—is felt more directly while you are in the dream situation.

The tangerine then would be compared to a group of many systems, and yet it would represent in itself but one small portion of an unperceived whole. The tangerine would be but one segment, you see, of a larger system. You can see then why projections would lead you in a far different direction from your normal linear sort of travel, and why time as you know it would be meaningless.

Nor do such projections involve necessarily journeys through space as you know it. There are systems, extremely vivid in intensity, that have no existence in physical reality. It is now thought, I believe, that time and space are basically one, but they are both a part of something else. They are merely the camouflage patterns by which you perceive reality. Space, as you experience it in the dream state, comes much closer to reality.

One point first. There are other systems all about, and within your own.

True motion has absolutely nothing to do with space. The only real motion is that of the traveling consciousness. (Long pause, eyes closed; one minute.) Spatially, a painting is flat. Its reality leaps out from its physical dimensions, and completely escapes them. (Long pause.) The depths within the painting do not physically exist, yet they are perceived.

The spacious present is always present (smile)—my pun—in any work of art. As you should know, there is a difference in the type of mobility of an objective painting, and an abstract one. The fluidity or the spacious present pervades the dream state as it pervades a painting, but the images are projected into the spacious present by the dreamer, according to his own understanding and experience.

Now, some systems have no basic form, but adopt the form, the forms, thrust upon it. Your own system is obviously one of these. Other systems, by their very nature, set up a resistance, that resists. There is in such cases a constant battle of forms.