“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

(The 61st envelope object is an announcement Jane and I received in the mail a few days ago. This contrasts with the object in the last session, which Jane had never seen and did not know existed. Tonight’s object is printed in black on lightweight card stock, which is an off-white color. The object was prepared for the experiment in the usual manner, using the two pieces of Bristol and the double envelopes.

(Once again Jane began speaking in a heavier voice, since our windows were open because of the warm evening. Her eyes remained closed for the entire first delivery. Her pace was good.)

(Jane’s voice was by now somewhat heavier and stronger.)

Now this was valid. However it is also very similar to an experience in which the individual feels himself inside of a concept.

Ruburt was in the third form, and he did indeed project beyond your solar system. This was still a projection within the physical universe however. He was given information which he did not recall consciously. When you experience clearly(smile), when you explore the inside of a concept, you act it out. You form a temporary but very vivid image production.

I want to make this clearer however. Suppose that you suddenly understand the concept of oneness with the universe, and that this particular inner sense of feeling concepts is to be used. You would then construct, as you construct dream images, a multitudinous variety of shapes and forms meant to represent the complicated varieties of life. You would then have the experience of entering into each of these lives. You would not think what it was like to be a bird, you would momentarily be a bird. This does involve a projection of sorts, and yet it still must be called a pseudoprojection.

(Break at 9:23. Jane was dissociated as usual, she said. Her eyes remained closed. Her voice had become somewhat stronger, her pace good.

(“Yes.” Jane stared at me, her eyes now open steadily. Her voice was again stronger.)

(Break at 9:59. Jane was out as usual. Her pace had been good, her voice fairly strong, her eyes open for most of the delivery.

(After the gesture Jane switched the envelope to a vertical position as she put it back against her forehead. From now on I watched carefully to see that she held the envelope in the same position until the end of the delivery, so that I could mark the top dimension thus, should it be necessary to our interpretation of the data, and the Wilburs verified that the position of the object itself was thus determined by marking in succession both envelopes as they were opened at break, the two pieces of Bristol, and finally the object itself.)

(“What was that about top?”)

(Break at 10:31. Jane was dissociated very well, she said—really out. She thought Seth had done this deliberately to compensate for the traffic noise coming through our open windows, and because the witnesses had, in the beginning of the data, unwittingly distracted her by moving papers, coughing, etc.

(“Ten.” The object is a notice Jane and I received in the mail recently, stating that a local artists supply store was continuing in business under new management. Tonight’s session was held on June 15. I had thrown away the envelope the object arrived in, but both of us remembered receiving the object last Friday, on June 10. Seth confirms this later.

(“Something repeated, perhaps, though I am not certain, five times.” Seth wasn’t positive here. We believe he was getting at the construction of the drawing on page 1 of the object. The three sections of milkweed pod shown are made up groups of lines; each group contains about the same number and arrangement of lines, whether one would consider them black or white. One could find arrangements of five lines in each of these groups, but could also count more or less, depending on approach. We believe the idea of repetition here to be valid.

(“Connection with a framework that is broken, or cut off.” In the lower right hand corner of page 1 of the object is a monogram consisting of the letters A and S, for Art Shop. The right leg of the A is cut shorter than the left leg. When Jane saw the monogram she said the A represented a framework to her, like an A-frame house, and that the right leg was shorter.

(“A top.” We don’t know, unless Seth perhaps referred to the fact that the object was made up of a folded sheet; perhaps as Jane held the envelope page 1 of the object facing her.

(The first question asked Seth to comment further on the “going forward” data on page 242: “The impression is difficult to bring into clear focus. It may be symbolic. A movement, for example in a forward direction, or something that leads into the future.” A literal interpretation was given on page 242. Here, the symbolic interpretation can be the fact that page 3 of the object states that the Art Shop is “Continuing under new management.”

(“I believe your brother Loren is one present. The number 17, a date in July which will be significant to him, or his close family—not necessarily to him, you see.” We did not ask for this data; it came through spontaneously. We saw one reason why Seth could have chosen to insert it here in the envelope data, and Seth confirms our speculation later. Our idea was that Seth sought to use the idea of a relative connection with the object. Ruth Gridley, listed on page 3 of the object as one of the Art Shop’s new management, is my first cousin; Loren of course is my brother. But we still think the Loren data is separate in the main from the envelope data.

(“Was our interpretation of the ten data correct?”)

It is not too late this evening for me to set him straight on his birds and bees. (Seth was very active, smiling, vociferous.) It is however too late, I fear, for you.

(Recently we acquired a second cat, a stray. It had the habit of coming and going at all hours. Last night Jane let it in at about 1 AM, after hearing it scratching at the backdoor. In order to do this she had to fully dress before walking down the long hall outside our apartment. Jane fed the cat and locked our apartment door as usual before returning to bed. I know she was up at this time because she woke me getting back into bed, and told me the second cat had come home. I also heard this cat and our first cat, Willy, playing in the living room.

(When we got up this morning cat number two was nowhere to be found. The hall door was locked. When I went to work this morning Jane went out to the garage with me. After I left, she found cat number two in the yard. Question: How did the cat get there? We decided to ask Seth tonight.

The dear little pussies annoyed him. He was too lazy, you see, to rise from bed. He wanted to sleep. He had his cake and ate it too.

(Seth was in an excellent and humorous mood, and spoke for a while longer. I stopped taking verbatim notes at 11:20. Seth spoke to the Wilburs and me about the implications behind the death of the young robin, among other things, and verified that the Loren data in the envelope experiment was also intended to use the relative idea to tie it to the envelope object and my cousin Ruth.

4) a connection with someone else beside Don with the watch.
* correct—the watch was a gift from his wife.

5) small stupid incident immediately before or after the purchase.
* correct—It was a Christmas gift and he had bought the same item, a watch for his wife. They both knew what the other had bought and decided to open them Xmas eve because they knew.

7) another package involved.
* correct—The smaller watch package was slipped inside of a larger package.

8) also, some connection with something misplaced or stolen—I don’t think it’s the watch that was misplaced or stolen.

12) old man in a wheelchair—not connected with the watch.
* Don knew a woman who was crippled with arthritis who spent a lot of time in a wheelchair. She was a small woman… Jane’s impression was of a small person.

14) something about the 6TH grade—another watch perhaps.
* The 6th grade was significant in the mind of Don although it is not likely he received another watch then. He has owned several other watches in his life though.

(Additional note by Rob regarding 12: Jane also had an impression of dark hair in connection with the arthritis data. This was correct according to the Wilburs on Friday night, June 17, but now I do not recall just how. RFB - 6/20.)