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My condolences to Ruburt, in his attempt to win out over natural forces, and to upset those balances which are so necessary. We shall have more to say about this bird episode. There are connections here that we shall use in another discussion.

In these you experience as actual the innermost reality of a given concept. Now this may, or may not, be a valid projection. There are ways to discover whether the projection is a pseudo one or a valid one. For one simple example, Ruburt experienced a valid projection begun from the dream state, some time ago.

Ruburt was in the third form, and he did indeed project beyond your solar system. This was still a projection within the physical universe however. He was given information which he did not recall consciously. When you experience clearly(smile), when you explore the inside of a concept, you act it out. You form a temporary but very vivid image production.

If the experience of Ruburt’s had merely been this, it still would have been pertinent, for when you understand a concept in such a manner, you never forget it. The knowledge becomes part of your physical cells, and of your own electromagnetic structure.

Usually you will project from the physical body into the first form, and then perhaps into the second form. Occasionally this will happen and you will not know it, despite all your attempts to ascertain your circumstances. There are indeed however ways and signs that tell you when you switch from one form to the other, and we shall indeed see that you know these. You should both—this is Joseph and Ruburt now—you should both have several examples of projections within the first and second forms in the following months, if your development continues at its present rate.

I want to mention the difference also in experience and sensation, between a projection that begins in the dream state, and one that begins in a trance state, and also to discuss what Ruburt calls awake-seeming dreams, for there are several points here that you do not know, and they are fairly important.

(Broad smile, eyes wide open.) I should never be the one to tell you this, for my friend Ruburt will be after me with a broom next.

Someone in this household walked in their sleep, and opened the door. The cat is not good at projection. Our friend Ruburt does not remember his nocturnal walk. Since we are with friends, I will tell you that he remembered his womanly modesty even in his sleep, and he once more donned the clothes that he donned earlier, you see, when he let the cat in.