“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

I believe your brother Loren is one present. (Pause.) The number 17, a date in July which will be significant to him, or his close family—not necessarily to him, you see. (Pause.)

(The third question asked for colors connected with the object. Seth gets around to answering the question, but first inserts the material concerning my brother Loren: “Now, we will try something here. I am up above, looking down at a room in which four people sit at a table. They are members of a family. Of your family, Joseph.”

(“I believe your brother Loren is one present. The number 17, a date in July which will be significant to him, or his close family—not necessarily to him, you see.” We did not ask for this data; it came through spontaneously. We saw one reason why Seth could have chosen to insert it here in the envelope data, and Seth confirms our speculation later. Our idea was that Seth sought to use the idea of a relative connection with the object. Ruth Gridley, listed on page 3 of the object as one of the Art Shop’s new management, is my first cousin; Loren of course is my brother. But we still think the Loren data is separate in the main from the envelope data.

(Seth was in an excellent and humorous mood, and spoke for a while longer. I stopped taking verbatim notes at 11:20. Seth spoke to the Wilburs and me about the implications behind the death of the young robin, among other things, and verified that the Loren data in the envelope experiment was also intended to use the relative idea to tie it to the envelope object and my cousin Ruth.