“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

(Then I’m in a house of our friends Lydia and Atlee; many kids and animals. “I talk to Rob. He is in one room and I am in a hallway. Suddenly I see two Robs: Rob’s double is in another room, that I can also see from my viewpoint. I keep talking to Rob and tell him to stay where he is. Then I check, moving closer to the other room. Sure enough I can see both Robs clearly. They both talk, so I tell Rob to come into the hall so he can see what I see. He does, and both Robs see each other. Others, hearing us, see both Robs also.”

(My friend was now either a miniature man, or very far away; actually I am quite sure he was miniature size. I saw him coming in for a landing, tiny and green and apparently out of control. He swooped down beside my bed, skidded along the top of a covered radiator, crashed into a wall and fell down onto another radiator top at a lower level. The landing was very rough and I cried out in dismay as my friend bounced and skidded around. I believe he was about four inches tall, and I saw his skis twisted over each other as he fell.

First, some general comments. You are both learning rather quickly. Ruburt’s projection from the dream state, through a false awakening, was indeed legitimate. He gave himself no suggestion beforehand, yet the overall suggestions that he has given himself stood him in good stead.

The mirror however is the mirror in your bedroom. He projected through this physical matter without realizing that he did so.

We will skip a bit around here. The plants in Ruburt’s dream did represent the books upon which he has worked and is working. The projection was quite legitimate. The Lydia episode contained many ordinary dream elements. You were indeed present, (smile) with Ruburt in some of his travels, but you have forgotten.

Ruburt saw two of you. He saw your form number two as described earlier, in which you were also traveling, you see. (See the 262nd session.) The other was Ruburt’s dream form of you, created by himself in the dream state. When you appeared in form two he was conscious enough, you see, to recognize your arrival, and then to point out to you the dream image which he had already created. And you were able to see it because of your own state.

Now when Ruburt dreams that he has discussed a dream with you, in most cases he has indeed done so. You have both conversed quite naturally in forms number two. With enough training, these conversations can be recorded in both of your dreams. The amount of work necessary is literally astounding, but I tell you that you can both do this; and you can make general, through your work, a knowledge of the true potential of the dream state.

(On Wednesday, at about noon, Jane bought the July issue of Fate Magazine. It contains a long article about a Philippine psychic surgeon who is being brought to this country next fall, when he is to operate on patients with surgeons and others as witnesses. The article goes into detail about the scientists who have watched the psychic surgeon operate at his home in the Philippines, and about the surgeon’s home and “operating room,” which is but a shack containing a crude wooden-slatted table. Although the surgeon’s surroundings are not sanitary, no case of infection has been traced to him.

A separate impression now… 1886, in connection with a book he may be reading. (Pause.)