“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

I want to give you some idea of the conditions that you may expect to meet in any successful projections, so that you will be prepared to some extent. For simplicity’s sake we shall call the body forms of which we spoke in our last session, forms one, two and three.

Now, form number one will spring out of an ordinary dream state. In spontaneous projections you may become conscious in form number one, legitimately project, return to the ordinary dream state, and project again several times. You can expect therefore that these projections will be difficult to interpret, though you may find the experience intact in the middle of the record of any given dream.

The projections here are fairly short in duration, though exceptionally clear. You may encounter phantoms from your own subconscious however, and they will seem exceedingly real. If you realize that you are projecting you may simply order any unpleasant subconscious phantoms to disappear, and they will do so.

A longer duration of projection is possible. The vividness is extraordinary. You will begin here to perceive very clearly constructions that are not your own, where earlier these were but dimly glimpsed. A certain period of orientation will be necessary, simply because these other constructions may be bewildering. Some will exist in your future. Some may have existed in your past, and some were thought of but never physically materialized.

But the reality of all of these constructions will be equally vivid, you see, for they are indeed equally real. I will give you one very simple example. Suppose you find yourself in a room with certain people, and you recognize later upon awakening that this room and these people both belong to a particular sequence in a novel. You think then, “This was no projection, simply a dream.”

It may however be a valid projection. The room and the people exist, but they do not exist in the manner which you endorse as reality. They exist in another dimension, but as a rule you cannot perceive it. In this case, you see, since the book has already been written you could say that the scene was a past event, at least of the imagination, at the time the author conceived of it.

Obviously, physical reality only happens to be the portion of reality you recognize. The paintings that you will paint exist now. It is possible for you to project yourself into one of your own future landscapes. This would not be an imaginative projection. This is what I am trying to tell you.

(A question had occurred to me as Seth spoke and I voiced it now: Were any of the results of our experimental data, involving either Dr. Instream or our own envelopes, the result of unsuspected projections on Jane’s part? Seth refers to the question later in the session.

In such a case incidentally, you were not a part of the battle, and you cannot be harmed. However you might be attracted enough to project yourself spontaneously into the body of one of the soldiers, in which case you could experience pain, until your own fear pulled you back. It will be a matter of learning control under such conditions. (Long pause, eyes opening often.)

What is required is a steady maintenance of identity, under conditions which will be new as far as your conscious awareness is concerned. In the cases about which we have been speaking, I cannot emphasize too strongly that actual projection into other dimensions occurs. Many such instances are often considered mad dreams, because there is no way to check against physical events. The events never happened in physical terms.

(Very restless, rubbing eyes heavily.) Now listen carefully for a moment. It is possible in form two to project to a future event (eyes now open wide and steady, very dark) in which you will be involved, and by an act that you make in the projection, alter the course that this future will take. (Smile.)

Let us take an example. You sleep. While asleep you project yourself into the year 1972. There you see yourself considering various courses of action. For a moment you are aware of a sense of duality as you look at this older self. You say you should do this or that, give a definite decision, you see. This may happen in several ways. We will go into this sort of thing more deeply in another session.

(Eyes open.) In any case this future self of yours heeds what you say. Now, in the actual future you are the self who one way or another, you see, hears the voice of his past self. (Jane leans forward, knocking on the tabletop for emphasis, eyes wide.) Perhaps in a dream, or perhaps in a projection, made into the past.

Before our break I will leave you with a few questions. (Smile, lighting cigarette.) Was there something your future self had forgotten? Did the future self request information, and did this request cause the present self, you see, to make an actual and legitimate projection into the future?