“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

Now I realize that Ruburt is not too happy with me for bringing up this next point. Intellectually he is highly critical of it. On another level however he knows very well that it is legitimate. There are indeed others who can help you in such experiences, and who often do while you are in the dream state, whether or not you know it. They can be of great assistance as guides.

However the window(smile, eyes open) you see, was a quite valid fabrication of his own. The projection was a projection. The window through which he ascended was a symbol necessary to him. The actual physical window was behind his head, you see, so he felt impelled to have a window in front of him, in order to get out of the physical house.

I found this amusing. The symbol was a highly valuable one however, obviously. You will both improve with practice. Because of your ideas, you see, you experience more difficulty in getting out of the physical house. (Smile.) Ruburt’s window image, had the experience continued, would have effectively done this for him. He did not have the confidence to imagine himself, you see, passing through the physical walls.

Instead he has to form the imaginary image of a window, which is in itself some feat, and then project himself through this. It is quite all right. I merely wanted to point out what he did. When you project from the dream body, you see, consciously you are already outside, as a rule. You have already made the initial change away from physical focus.

My first impression is of blocks, and a turnstile. Has he visited someplace with this kind of entrance, for example, or does he have a photograph of such a place…

The object he has chosen has a strong connection with a place. (Jane began to rub her eyes strongly.) The object is not utilitarian, that is, you cannot do anything with it, but it represents something else.

(“I am not sure here. It seems a connection with a party. But also a connection with something unpleasant, so I am not sure.” My third question concerned the mirth data, discussed on page 184. At that time Seth didn’t come up with a party connection with mirth, although he mentioned party later on. He did connect mirth to something unpleasant, however, and we believe this to be the correct connection. Here above, he is also unsure about the party connection, the something unpleasant data interfering.

(“I have done as much to name it as I can.” Here I asked Seth if he wanted to name the object.

No. The invitation however did have some application, though there was some distortion. When you talked to Ruburt there was an implied invitation on his part, for he would have liked you to have gone down.