“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

(One minute pause.) There are several points I would like to make. For all practical purposes, you will find yourself in some sort of body form in your out-of-body experiences.

These body forms however are necessary camouflages, for you cannot yet think of identity without some kind of physical body. Therefore you project yourself in a body form. It varies according to your own abilities, and without it you would feel lost indeed. The form itself is not important, but the form can tell you something about the dimension in which you are having experience.

The dream body is the one with which you are most familiar. It has been called the astral body. It strikes you as being physical, though you can do things with it that you cannot do with your physical body. You can levitate with it, for example. As a rule you do not go through walls with this body. This is the body that you use for ordinary dreams. Levitation is possible with it, but on a very limited basis.

When you enter a different dimension the abilities of the body form change, and for all intents and purposes it is a different body form, which we will call a mind form. It still seems physical in shape, but you can walk through physical matter with it, and you can truly levitate with it within your solar system, but you cannot go beyond in this mind form.

You can travel anywhere within your solar system however with it. In the first form it is possible to perceive the past, present and future on a limited basis. In the second form this perception is on a larger scale, the scope of consciousness being further opened. Now this is the form that you will use if you meet appointments with others within the dream state.

At physical death, after the last reincarnation, then the normal body form is the dream body, and excursions are made from this point, you see. It is possible to suddenly switch from the third form to the dream body, but at a considerable jolt to the consciousness, as a rule. Transition is simply too sudden.

Now I realize that Ruburt is not too happy with me for bringing up this next point. Intellectually he is highly critical of it. On another level however he knows very well that it is legitimate. There are indeed others who can help you in such experiences, and who often do while you are in the dream state, whether or not you know it. They can be of great assistance as guides.

Instead he has to form the imaginary image of a window, which is in itself some feat, and then project himself through this. It is quite all right. I merely wanted to point out what he did. When you project from the dream body, you see, consciously you are already outside, as a rule. You have already made the initial change away from physical focus.

The mass of valid projections are indeed made from the dreaming body. When the excursion is over the return to the dream body is made with no strain, you see, for the ego is little concerned. In most such instances however the knowledge is then not available to the waking self at all.

But the training here is vastly important, and a manipulation of consciousness in this way has definite advantages. It will take some work on your part, but you will indeed by able, perhaps with some use of suggestion, to realize, when in the dream state, those occasions when you are projecting.

Then you can prolong the experience, and recognize it as a valid out-of-body excursion. The mobility of consciousness will automatically allow you greater freedom in using your inner perceptions in waking life also. For this is a motion of consciousness, a motion that has little to do with the motion of the physical body.

However there is a chemical energy used in all such out-of-body experiences. The chemical reaction results in an electromagnetic connection between the consciousness and the physical body, and without it there would be no return to the physical body, in your terms. Of course it is mental energy that makes the chemical energy possible, however. This freedom of consciousness is not dependent upon physical existence, you see.

(“Yet also a connection with an unpleasant event.” Jane said the unpleasant event was the fact that earlier two neighborhood children had been quite noisy and active running about our yard; she had wanted to go sun herself after lunch, but put off the expedition until the children had gone, by 3:00 PM. She wanted to go over the manuscript for her dream book, without interruptions. Also, the same two children had been romping through Jane’s freshly spaded garden out back, which did not cheer her up. The garden site is about 25 feet from where Jane sat while I sketched her.

(Jane’s dream book manuscript does not show in the sketch; at the moment I made the sketch the manuscript was invisible beyond her right side. Another book does show, as well as a glass of ice tea, a book of matches and a cigarette.

(“and horizontal lettering.” My writing on the object follows the horizontal or long dimension of the object. There is a possibility this could also refer to the organization data, to be discussed shortly. Or—could this refer to the book Jane had with her, or the manuscript of her dream book, also with her?