“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

It is correct to say that the truth can never appear completely undistorted when words are used, for the words themselves almost cloak as much as they reveal. (A long pause; Jane was very restless.) The dream, I believe, was a part of a series of three dreams, the other two yet to come. He was also involved in some astral travel. This is not unusual, for the inner self frequently leaves the body when the body sleeps.

In the diagram for example, each star would represent a moment point in another system. It appears as matter within your system, from your viewpoint, and exists as matter within your system. But it exists as something entirely different, you see, within another system. You perceive but the lowest point of its reality, so I will tell you now that the various stars and planets and heavenly bodies that you observe in your universe do indeed exist as such, but only within your system.

All you can perceive of them, you see, is matter, because you automatically transform all data into matter patterns because of the nature of your own perceptions. Since you observe matter, it obviously has a reality. However, these heavenly bodies appear as something entirely different, you see, within other systems.

What you call dimensions represent states in which reality is perceived. You perceive reality in three dimensions, and you have a glimpse of reality in a fourth dimension. There are many dimensions however in all directions. These heavenly bodies represent moment points in other systems. As they are projected into your system however, they are only perceived in terms of matter.

You must interpret them in your own terms. You form the system within which you operate. The heavenly bodies for example are moment points to other systems. They actually exist as such within your system if you could perceive them as such.

The heavenly bodies as moment points conform to certain mathematical principles, though your idea of mathematics is extremely limited. Even using your mathematics, you can still only conceive of reality in certain terms. It is difficult to put this into words. I must reemphasize this. Your mathematics still deals, comparatively speaking, with a very slim area. (Jane smiled, eyes wide open and very dark.)