“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

This session will be a relatively informal one, and not as long as our last session.

Now. I do not dream of Ruburt because I do not dream at all, in the same terms that you do. I switch the focus of my attention with conscious intent, so to speak. I take all portions of myself into any particular state of consciousness, and I enter various states of consciousness somewhat in the same manner that you can move from one physical country to another.

For each time when they come to her aid she says to herself, “If they did not love me they would not help me.” At the same time however this help is held up to the father, for it is the mother who asks for the assistance, and the assistance is always in some way held up against the father. This is also a type of revenge, however, for the mother is now in a stronger position, after having been kept in an inferior one for nearly a lifetime.

Your course is a wise one. I foresee some family difficulty in your younger brother’s situation. Not in his immediate family but in his wife’s family. Perhaps a connection with the new house—its inhabitants, or with those closely connected with it.

A hill behind the church. Not high, but containing several streets. A lighthouse to the northwest. Several small villages which later became part of Boston, one to the northwest and one to the southwest, separated at this time, approximately 1830, by fields.

You did not act as a minister in the other location, but worked with lumber. When you returned to Boston you became minister of a church in the same denomination but in a different building. The other, or later location, was a socially better one by contrast, but you did not move in the best circles by any means. The northern area of the city was the most elite.

(Break at 9:58. Jane was dissociated as usual. Her eyes remained closed and her pace was slow. She was aware that she was very restless. Jane said that during one of the longer pauses she felt Seth trying to get at the name Nostratious from the earlier note data. We thought Nostratious Elmo a most peculiar name. In an earlier session Seth told us Jane had been a medium in her Boston life, and that she had misused her abilities. This could account for the mention of a professional name above however. See page 86 in Volume 1.

The object is like a chain. A slim one of silver color. It is kept in a box that also contains several notes and photographs. Either that, or the box itself is kept next to the notes and photographs. It is worn by a woman.

(Jane paused at 10:18. Without opening her eyes she took the envelope for our 52nd experiment from me. She held it to her forehead briefly then lowered it to her lap; she resumed her earlier position, her head lowered to one hand.)

A connection with a high ledge shape, as one connected with a roof, or lookout from which one can look down and away.

Connection with four people, one of them disheveled, comparatively speaking. Fourteen, and I suggest your break. (Pause.)

(“Eight.” Eight is one of the page numbers enclosed in the circle in the upper right hand corner of the object, but we don’t know if this is what Seth meant.

(“Connection with an animal.” Oddly enough, there are several references to animals in the chapter five from Jane’s dream book. In the early part of the chapter Jane used the phrase “cart before the horse,” and Seth mentions horse a bit later. One of the headings for the chapter is Dream Symbols and Culture. Discussing this subject, Jane mentions that fire helped primitive man “keep the beasts away,” etc.

(“A star shape. Something round, again, with spokes leading outward, but rather prominent.” Jane immediately thought of this diagram when she read over Seth’s data. It is on the back of page 112 of the first draft of chapter five of the dream book. Jane believes that she quite possibly made the diagram on the same day she typed up page 80, which was used as envelope object. Page 112 was used in the final version of chapter five, fortunately, and so was not thrown away. I had not seen the diagram before. It is one Jane made to help her see clearly certain points involving the whole self, and waking and dreaming states. There was much handwritten copy beneath it. Jane located the diagram immediately after this session. She said it is the only one she made for the dream book; she has the habit of making many notes on her manuscript, but very few diagrams of this kind.

(“Red or blue.” I am not sure, but when taking the data from Seth I wondered whether this could be connected to the postmark data. At times it is difficult to tell. I used a period after the word postmark however in the notes, so consider the red and blue separately. Jane made the notes on the object with a dark blue or gray pen that gives the impression of dark blue. She said she felt red or blue refers to the fact that she uses two different pens in correcting manuscript—a red one and a blue one; but we are not sure.

(“A connection with a high ledge shape, as one connected with a roof, or lookout from which one can look down and away.” See the interpretation of the “framework” data on page 148. As stated, the manuscript page used as object was written by Jane in the studio at the back of the apartment. The studio is a second-floor converted porch with two sides made up of five windows each. Jane sits at her desk facing the row of windows to the west; from there she has an excellent view of the backyard and the street beyond. She “looks down and away” at grass and flowers, etc., and to her left, not obstructing her view, is the porch roof of the apartment on the ground floor.

(“Connection with four people, one of them disheveled,” I wanted to ask Seth questions about this data but did not get the chance. The object is part of the first page of chapter five of Jane’s dream book. In chapter five Jane discusses dreams furnished by four people specifically—Jane, myself, Bill Gallagher and our landlady, Marian Spaziani.

(Jane believes the term “disheveled” refers to herself here. See the recurring childhood playground dream, mentioned in the data dealing with the interpretation of “a game connection.” This dream, over a period of a couple of years during her childhood, had a powerful effect upon Jane; she has talked about it ever since I have known her. In the dream Jane constructed a set of games, involving physical apparatus like swings and jungle gyms, in a section of the playground where in physical life none existed. The morning after one of these dreams Jane would hurry to the playground before going to school, to investigate to see if by chance there were swings, etc., in that particular section of the playground. There were none. She would then have to hurry to school; most often she would arrive late, and breathing hard, and disheveled. She remembers this clearly.

(“Also a small screen.” It took Jane two days to make the connection here, and when she did it was very vivid. At the end of the session she said she’d had no images while giving the envelope data. Association a couple of days later reminded her that she had indeed had one mental picture—that of a small television screen, and quite clearly. These images can be difficult to recall, particularly on the spur of the moment, and Jane has had other instances where they came to mind some time after the session.

(“Something not done, but begun.” I asked Seth but one question, asking for elaboration on “An initiation not completed.” See the first interpretation of this on page 148. Jane believes the bit of data above refers to the fact that she had begun the dream book, but hasn’t finished it yet.)