“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

I visit you therefore, but I do not dream of you in the way that you might think. Now Ruburt has not, in his imagination, given me a particular physical image, and dreaming at your level involves visual images. So he does not dream of me in that way.

He does contact me however without his conscious knowledge in his dreams on some occasions. We simply speak to each other, but he does not remember what has been said consciously. Of course on other levels he is aware of these communications.

I have a few interesting but minor remarks to make.

Your course is a wise one. I foresee some family difficulty in your younger brother’s situation. Not in his immediate family but in his wife’s family. Perhaps a connection with the new house—its inhabitants, or with those closely connected with it.

It is not there now, but perhaps records could prove its existence. You had some difficulty with a left eye. Ruburt is concerned lest this is distorted, because of Miss Callahan’s bad eye, but the information is quite legitimate. (Miss Callahan is an elderly spinster living in our apartment house. See Volume 1.)

(Break at 9:28. Jane was dissociated as usual. Her pace had been average to begin the session but it had slowed a great deal when she reached the reincarnation data. Her eyes opened just twice, briefly, during the delivery. Most of the time she sat with a hand up to her face.

A hill behind the church. Not high, but containing several streets. A lighthouse to the northwest. Several small villages which later became part of Boston, one to the northwest and one to the southwest, separated at this time, approximately 1830, by fields.

You did not act as a minister in the other location, but worked with lumber. When you returned to Boston you became minister of a church in the same denomination but in a different building. The other, or later location, was a socially better one by contrast, but you did not move in the best circles by any means. The northern area of the city was the most elite.

He has been offered several opportunities or choices. It is not a matter of too few choices, but almost of too many.

Separately now, a connection with the initials P, G, or P, C, and an overdrawn account. Two packages which are not delivered on time. Dr. Instream does not hold the chain which is our object, but watches the woman who wears it.

The words unholy alliance come to me here. A selection, or something offered from which selections may be made. A star shape. Something round, again, with spokes leading outward, but rather prominent. For us.

A connection with markings and dates, and a connection with a horse perhaps. Some connection here, but distant. Squares. Perhaps a game connection. A small round circle suggesting a postmark. Red or blue.

Something not done, but begun. I suggest your break, then.

(Actually this marked the end of the session, but Jane didn’t say so until we had gone through the data ourselves. We made our own connections and did not ask Seth to return to help out.

(As she sits at her desk Jane looks out and down to the grass of the backyard below. The view is high and quite pretty. To her left is the kitchen roof of the apartment below us, but this is to the side and does not obstruct the view. We believe the framework mentioned by Seth is a reference to the wooden window frames, and that the thin lines like poles refers to the narrow wooden frames holding the glass panes; eight small panes make up each of the five windows.

(“Eight.” Eight is one of the page numbers enclosed in the circle in the upper right hand corner of the object, but we don’t know if this is what Seth meant.

(“An initiation, not completed.” The object is the first half page from the first draft of chapter five of Jane’s dream book, and thus would be something begun or initiated, but not completed. There can be extensions here: Not completed could refer to the whole first draft of chapter five, or to the whole dream book itself. Also, perhaps, initiation could be linked to the suggested experiments for the reader to try, as mentioned in the headings. Jane’s idea is that this data refers to the dream book itself being started but not completed.

(“The color purple,” Jane said this is speculation: She wears a certain purple sweater her mother made for her on days when the studio is chilly in the mornings. She wears no other sweater in the studio; it is, also, too large to wear publicly. But Jane has no idea whether she wore the sweater on the day she wrote the object.

(“The words unholy alliance come to me here.” The whole of chapter five, from which the object comes, concerns the close relationship between dreaming and waking life. We see the idea of alliance here, but not unholy particularly. Seth might have been spoofing us a bit, or it could be a slight distortion. My notes indicate nothing out of the ordinary in Jane’s delivery at the time.

(“A star shape. Something round, again, with spokes leading outward, but rather prominent.” Jane immediately thought of this diagram when she read over Seth’s data. It is on the back of page 112 of the first draft of chapter five of the dream book. Jane believes that she quite possibly made the diagram on the same day she typed up page 80, which was used as envelope object. Page 112 was used in the final version of chapter five, fortunately, and so was not thrown away. I had not seen the diagram before. It is one Jane made to help her see clearly certain points involving the whole self, and waking and dreaming states. There was much handwritten copy beneath it. Jane located the diagram immediately after this session. She said it is the only one she made for the dream book; she has the habit of making many notes on her manuscript, but very few diagrams of this kind.

(“and a connection with a horse perhaps. Some connection here, but distant.” See the interpretation of the “connection with an animal” data on page 149. In the early part of chapter five, from which the envelope object comes, Jane used the phrase “cart before the horse.”

(“Squares. Perhaps a game connection.” Games figure prominently in chapter five of the dream book. To make some of her points in the chapter Jane uses a recurring childhood dream of her own. This dream involved the large playground she visited often in waking life, across the street from her school in Saratoga Springs, NY. There were many kinds of games to be indulged in at the playground in waking life. In addition, in her recurring dream Jane kept recreating a series of games at the playground, in a section where there were none. There is more to the dream, but enough is said here to make the game connection.

(“Red or blue.” I am not sure, but when taking the data from Seth I wondered whether this could be connected to the postmark data. At times it is difficult to tell. I used a period after the word postmark however in the notes, so consider the red and blue separately. Jane made the notes on the object with a dark blue or gray pen that gives the impression of dark blue. She said she felt red or blue refers to the fact that she uses two different pens in correcting manuscript—a red one and a blue one; but we are not sure.

(“Connection with four people, one of them disheveled,” I wanted to ask Seth questions about this data but did not get the chance. The object is part of the first page of chapter five of Jane’s dream book. In chapter five Jane discusses dreams furnished by four people specifically—Jane, myself, Bill Gallagher and our landlady, Marian Spaziani.

(The TV screen entered the data because Jane used an analogy in the first couple of pages of chapter five of the dream book, involving a TV screen; she mentioned it quite extensively on two pages. The analogy does not show on the half page used as object. It begins on the bottom half of the same page—but not in the first draft of chapter five of the dream book. It is found instead in the second draft; rewriting the chapter, Jane then inserted the television screen analogy to help make some points clear.

(“Something not done, but begun.” I asked Seth but one question, asking for elaboration on “An initiation not completed.” See the first interpretation of this on page 148. Jane believes the bit of data above refers to the fact that she had begun the dream book, but hasn’t finished it yet.)