“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

Now, the ego, the dominant ego, does indeed affect the inner identity, and changes it even as it affects and changes the dominant ego. For we are dealing here after all with an interdependent gestalt. The interworkings of the whole gestalt have never been completely understood.

A hundred and forty-five B.C., a hundred and forty-five A.D., a thousand years in your past and a thousand years in your present—all exist now. Therefore the past existences are present existences. You exist in other words in several guises or reincarnations, at one time within the spacious present. You simply do not recognize that the so-called past exists now as surely as the so-called future exists now.

These four personalities existed however in one physical lifetime. Now to an observer whose time concept was still further segmented, and slowed down in comparison to your own, then theoretically within his time system the four personalities would indeed appear to be four separate existences in fact. In the same manner, you see, several manifestations of one identity appear to you to be stretched out in serial form within a successive time framework.

Now, I will tell you the nearly unbelievable. There was not one shared body in the case of the four Eves. There were four separate bodies.

It is interesting to note also that these personalities did alternate, and all were in existence at once, so to speak, even though only one was dominant at a given time. In the same way all so-called past personalities are present in your now, but not dominant. Obviously also any future reincarnations are present for those who have other lives still to live in your terms.

(It was now time for the 60th Dr. Instream experiment. Jane spoke at only a slightly slower pace as she sat with her right hand to her closed eyes. Resume at 10:04.)

Now give us a moment, please, for our Instream material.

Now I have the impression of a book, with three lines in the title, the first line being the longest. I also have the impression of a buckle of some kind, and a blotter.

Also a circular object, something transparent. This is Ruburt’s connection now: An impression of forgiveness; that is his impression. (Long pause.)

Fairly small. Dark colors and white. Perhaps writing on the back. A distant connection—distant, now, with the year 1947, with the photograph of the woman. There are also others, or at least one more. There seems to be dark fluid colors that give the suggestion of water.

I suggest your break now.

(“…Ruburt’s connection now: An impression of forgiveness…” We believe this refers to the recent death of a priest whom Jane knew as a child. Jane received a photograph of him in the mail the other day.

(“A distant connection—distant, now, with the year 1947, with the photograph of the woman.” Not knowing much about Mrs. Berry, we could make no connection here.

(Toward the end of this data, Jane said now at break, she arrived at the idea of a relative of hers who lives in New York City being featured in the photograph of a woman data. However she felt this was incorrect; she could feel Seth leading her away from the idea of this relative, and her name, so she did not give voice to it.

(During second break I had wondered if there was much similarity between the various manifestations of the Eve egos, and the relationship between Jane and Seth, when Seth was temporarily dominant. I now asked Jane if Seth might not talk about this, rather than deal with our interpretations of the envelope data. Jane resumed at a good pace, smoking, her eyes opening often, at 10:51.)

Now. I exist simultaneously with the both of you.

This should be obvious, or I would not be speaking with you; obviously therefore I also exist, speaking in your terms, as I am now and as I was. In my terms you see I simply exist in the now.

He allows me to make some adjustments in it however, and we shall discuss these in detail before too long. Now. One of the egos that was mine, you see, is a part of Ruburt’s whole personality, and we use this as a bridgework. I can use it momentarily.

You forget, you see, that you have also been, and are, part of this identity, Joseph. In your particular cases now you have branched out to form prime identities of your own, though we were originally part of the same.

Now. I am the prime identity that you were part of. And I was myself at one time, so to speak, a part of another prime identity. This development does not always occur, for many reasons. Some fragments of an identity simply do not wish to so develop. In the spacious present you see we are one, yet entirely individual.

Now we may possibly develop into a newer gestalt, for I cannot see all portions—underline all portions—of the spacious present. There are still veils before my eyes. This is a part of the present I do not perceive. If so, it will be one in which identities are completely retained, and there is no question of a dominancy, but of a smooth-working organization.

In the time framework within which you now exist I can help you, but you cannot help me except by allowing me to help you, you see. In the gestalt which could develop we would be in a position of helping each other more equally. Now through you I affect physical reality, and this is indeed one of my purposes.

Now, I am quite willing to continue our session, and so is Ruburt. The hour grows late however, and you had better make a decision on this before I become too involved here.

You change because of any experience. You have, then, changed because of this one. You have become more than you were. I am speaking here to you both. I am not taking you over, so to speak. You are accepting as a part of your whole experience more and more of the reality of what I am. This in no way minimizes me, you see. I make much of my knowledge available to you, but it is still my knowledge, you see. The sharing of it however enlarges my own experience. Now then, I will let you rest. You may take a break or end the session as you prefer.