“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

It is impossible for you to perceive what these quasars represent. You can only perceive distorted projections of these quasars.

What your scientists are perceiving is the form, the camouflage form, which the projections of the quasars take within your system.

It is of course because of your highly distorted ideas of time that you persist in projecting antiquated concepts of past, present and future outward into explorations of your universe. While the quasars appear to be filled with more energy than man can conceive of, still the quasars that are now perceived are but shadows of the reality behind them.

It is only because you are so hypnotized with ideas of beginning and endings that you persist in searching for them in the universe, and you distort data that would otherwise be clear to you. I have told you that the universe expands in a way that has nothing to do with space. But when you try to relate this idea to the universe as you know it, you find yourself up against a brick wall, for what you seem to see out in the universe is indeed space.

Their intensity gives them the appearance of mass, but there is no matter involved here, only electrical intensities, so swift that what you have is instantaneous motion and infinite electrical intensities.

What you refer to as the nucleus of an atom therefore represents only a small portion of the whole nucleus. Part of the nucleus exists in antimatter. Part of the nucleus exists within other systems with which your scientists simply are not familiar.

They will not be able to perceive these hidden portions of any given atom with the methods they are now using. I have told you in the past that the same atoms are utilized, that is the same given atoms are utilized both in your system and in other systems. In like manner then these giant nuclei, or quasars, are only a part of reality, the part projected within your system.

He can only play with the projections of reality within his own system. He can indeed do much damage, but only to his own camouflage universe. This physical universe is however quite important to him, after all, but he is well isolated within it.

He has constructed matter as an outward manifestation of inner reality. He can to some extent destroy matter, but he cannot destroy the inner reality.

If you could go further however you would come, in one dimension, to matter again. This would be what you call negative matter. Then going further you would travel away from matter again, until there was no more. And then there would be positive matter again, and so on.

They still exist within the same space, using your terms, that they did earlier in your time. But they have changed systems, and you can no longer perceive them. Their reality cannot be picked up by the instruments that you now have, but this does not mean they do not exist within your system. Nor does it mean that they may not reappear within your system.

(Jane now made a drawing of what she could recall of the atom image she had attempted at first break. This is the image of circles, representing the whole atom, including the part of it visible to us and the invisible portions. Jane was not satisfied with the drawing because she could not indicate the thickness or depth it should have, she said.)

Not sufficient faith in the evidence of his own experiments. This is connected to the above. A geographic magazine that has an article on Tibet, on a second shelf in his office. He will know to what this refers.

(“What individuals are involved with them?”)

(Aunt Mabel and I seldom see each other. Jane has met her just three times during the eleven years we have been married. The third time was at the funeral of my Aunt Ella on August 8,1965, in Wellsburg, NY. Thus the most recent time that Jane had a chance to speak at length to Aunt Mabel involved the funeral of a member of the Butts family. In addition Seth dealt at length with Aunt Ella in the 176th session of August 9,1965, the day after her funeral. Note that the object was secured two months after Aunt Ella’s funeral. We have noticed this curious time jump before in the envelope experiments, backwards as it were. Jane possessed strong emotional memories regarding the funeral, and clairvoyant knowledge of the envelope object in some form; evidently Seth responded to, or deliberately chose, what he perceived as the stronger intensities pertaining to Aunt Ella’s funeral over the object itself.

(Now here is the data referring to the death of Jane’s grandmother: “Printed material with a picture. In parentheses: Ruburt thinks of old-fashioned Shredded Wheat cards, that were gray-blue in color.” Jane was six years old when her grandmother was killed by an automobile while going to a neighborhood store to buy Shredded Wheat. The connection here is a strong emotional one for Jane. Jane remembers clearly that on the day of her grandmother’s death she did not like what she had for supper. As children do, she cried and made a fuss. To placate her, her grandmother gave in to Jane’s demands for Shredded Wheat, and left the house.