“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

(Try as we would neither of us could recall just when we picked up this particular leaf, other than that it was in the early fall. I thought of October, then checked this with the pendulum, which for me is quite reliable. The pendulum agreed with my conscious answer. The location of just where I picked up this particular leaf is important in the data, and this we are sure of. This will be explained. Suffice it to say now that Jane and I will never cease to be surprised at the turns impressions attached to such experimental objects can take.

It is of course because of your highly distorted ideas of time that you persist in projecting antiquated concepts of past, present and future outward into explorations of your universe. While the quasars appear to be filled with more energy than man can conceive of, still the quasars that are now perceived are but shadows of the reality behind them.

We shall take this slowly. Now, energy within any atom expands, but within a space so small that it is almost inconceivable to you. The atom you see does not then grow larger in mass, or expand outward in space, and neither does your universe.

(Jane’s pace was better now and her eyes were opening often, for sentences at a time.)

Now. Something else here, that may at first sound unbelievable to you: The quasars are incredibly small, compared to the energy which they emit. The energy itself is so intense that it would seem that their size was considerable, but this is not the case.

They will not be able to perceive these hidden portions of any given atom with the methods they are now using. I have told you in the past that the same atoms are utilized, that is the same given atoms are utilized both in your system and in other systems. In like manner then these giant nuclei, or quasars, are only a part of reality, the part projected within your system.

(Her pace had been fast between many short pauses, with her eyes open much of the time. She now resumed in the same manner at 9:37.)

(Jane now paused for over a minute, sitting quietly with her eyes closed.)

Now, quasars are originators of energy. All energy ultimately returns to them also. They are not on the far limits of your universe. They are projections from another system into your universe. They appear to be where they are not.

Looking out at them, you view the future as much as you view the past, for as you know now, the future and the past are one, and all apparent separation or division is basically an illusion. They exist, in other words, in your own terms, as much in the future as in the past.

They still exist within the same space, using your terms, that they did earlier in your time. But they have changed systems, and you can no longer perceive them. Their reality cannot be picked up by the instruments that you now have, but this does not mean they do not exist within your system. Nor does it mean that they may not reappear within your system.

(Jane now made a drawing of what she could recall of the atom image she had attempted at first break. This is the image of circles, representing the whole atom, including the part of it visible to us and the invisible portions. Jane was not satisfied with the drawing because she could not indicate the thickness or depth it should have, she said.)

(It was now time for the 55th Dr. Instream experiment. As usual Jane sat with a hand to her closed eyes. She spoke at a somewhat slower pace throughout the data. Resume at 10:10.)

(Now here is the data referring to the death of Jane’s grandmother: “Printed material with a picture. In parentheses: Ruburt thinks of old-fashioned Shredded Wheat cards, that were gray-blue in color.” Jane was six years old when her grandmother was killed by an automobile while going to a neighborhood store to buy Shredded Wheat. The connection here is a strong emotional one for Jane. Jane remembers clearly that on the day of her grandmother’s death she did not like what she had for supper. As children do, she cried and made a fuss. To placate her, her grandmother gave in to Jane’s demands for Shredded Wheat, and left the house.

(“And something that seems to go inward here.” is interesting to me, a good description of how the two leaves curled at the edges during the several days it took me to make the very detailed drawing. The curling took place as they dried out; they had been damp from being outside. This curl cannot be seen in the tracing on page 91 to any degree. In order to get the object inside the first of the two envelopes I had to flatten it out. This pressure caused the leaf to crack in many places; it is by now very brittle. After the experiment I had to tape it to a sheet of paper in order to preserve it for the notebook in which we keep our envelope objects.

Now. Joseph is correct, the impressions were mainly emotional ones, connected with the object.

We shall be doing some intensive study shortly. The spring season should be a most productive one for us. Now, you may as you prefer dispense with the coming Wednesday and following Monday sessions entirely, as a brief vacation before our spring semester.