“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

(The 47th envelope experiment was held during the session, as noted by the tracing on page 91. The object was a faded maple leaf that Jane and I had picked up, along with others, on a walk last year, probably in October 1965. I subsequently made a watercolor drawing of this leaf and another. As will be seen the object led to some data that is somewhat difficult to evaluate, but Jane and I believe it legitimate.

Your interpretation must therefore be made scientifically, according to the laws with which you are familiar within your system. But these laws do not apply outside your system, and they certainly do not apply to your quasars.

It is of course because of your highly distorted ideas of time that you persist in projecting antiquated concepts of past, present and future outward into explorations of your universe. While the quasars appear to be filled with more energy than man can conceive of, still the quasars that are now perceived are but shadows of the reality behind them.

It is only because you are so hypnotized with ideas of beginning and endings that you persist in searching for them in the universe, and you distort data that would otherwise be clear to you. I have told you that the universe expands in a way that has nothing to do with space. But when you try to relate this idea to the universe as you know it, you find yourself up against a brick wall, for what you seem to see out in the universe is indeed space.

We shall take this slowly. Now, energy within any atom expands, but within a space so small that it is almost inconceivable to you. The atom you see does not then grow larger in mass, or expand outward in space, and neither does your universe.

Now. Something else here, that may at first sound unbelievable to you: The quasars are incredibly small, compared to the energy which they emit. The energy itself is so intense that it would seem that their size was considerable, but this is not the case.

Their intensity gives them the appearance of mass, but there is no matter involved here, only electrical intensities, so swift that what you have is instantaneous motion and infinite electrical intensities.

He can only play with the projections of reality within his own system. He can indeed do much damage, but only to his own camouflage universe. This physical universe is however quite important to him, after all, but he is well isolated within it.

He has constructed matter as an outward manifestation of inner reality. He can to some extent destroy matter, but he cannot destroy the inner reality.

(Jane said she had an image within when talking about our seeing but part of the atom in our system. She tried tracing out the image on the tabletop with a forefinger, but could get nothing beyond the idea of circles being involved.

The invisible barriers of which I have spoken hold you back, so that when your perception fails to yield results then you imagine that there is nothing to perceive. Therefore you imagine that you perceive the whole of an atom, but you only perceive that portion which is projected into your own system.

Atoms do not create energy in a basic manner. They make energy usable within your system. Energy appears in your universe through the nucleus of the atom, but the nucleus is not the originator of the energy. It simply seems to be.

They still exist within the same space, using your terms, that they did earlier in your time. But they have changed systems, and you can no longer perceive them. Their reality cannot be picked up by the instruments that you now have, but this does not mean they do not exist within your system. Nor does it mean that they may not reappear within your system.

(Jane paused, and at 10:16 I handed her the envelope for our 47th experiment. She took it from me without opening her eyes, but instead of pressing it to her forehead she held it quietly in her lap with one hand. Once again she held her right hand to her eyes.)

(See the tracing of the object on page 91, and the notes on page 92. At first the data meant little, but Seth’s answer to the second question furnished the key that made it intelligible to us. It would have been quite opaque to an outsider. This is a case where Seth used the object as a springboard to delve into data that is connected to it through location mainly. My thought was that the bulk of the material he gives had more appeal emotionally for him than the object itself, and he confirmed this after break. Still, the turn the data took was unexpected.

(The connection between the envelope object and the death-in-the-family reference is, simply, that the object was picked off the sidewalk beside the home of my Aunt Mabel, and that Aunt Mabel, Jane and I attended the funeral of the family member. The connection is more complicated than this, but to avoid confusion I will explain this portion mentioned above first.

(Jane said that while giving the data this evening she thought of Aunt Ella by name, but did not give voice to this.

(“We will say then a small child. A connection with a small child.” Seth gave this answer to my request for the female child’s initials; Linda is thus eliminated definitely. More important, Jane said that when I asked questions concerning the child, she wanted to say Linda but that Seth wouldn’t let her. Backing off from the idea of Linda because she felt it was wrong, Jane compromised with the small child data.

(We did get a line finally on who the small child might be, but not until the next day, Tuesday April 12, when I had a chance to ask some questions. This will be given in its proper place after Seth resumes at 10:50.

(“Red and yellow, strips I believe, and a cardboard backing.” I used two of the maple leaves Jane and I gathered on our October 1965 walk as subjects for a watercolor painting. The envelope object is one of them. Both of the leaves were fall colors—red and yellow, with some green. There may be other connections here but we did not ask Seth. I don’t see the strips reference, or the cardboard backing.