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(I then realized I was also “seeing” one of the men, the one who had laughed. I did not see his companion as the voice exchange continued. The one in my vision was a thin man in shirt sleeves, perhaps in his late thirties, with thick straight brown hair combed straight back, a thin very friendly face with a generous mouth. His voice was deep and gentle. I thought the other voice belonged to an older man with glasses and white hair, though I did not see this person. I saw no details of their surroundings, not even walls. End.

(I have long been aware that the yoga exercises have a powerful effect on me personally, and that I evidently end up in a dissociated state at times after doing them. I have neither encouraged or discouraged this effect. I have had the experience of hearing voices before but have not asked Seth to comment. He did mention my hearing music recently. The last time I heard voices they chattered away at a great rate, like a tape played too fast.

I want to make myself clear here, so I am speaking slowly. Conditions that come about during your exercises bring forth this passive state, with you personally. Now this passivity is good, and you use it well. It also comes more easily to you however, because you have always been given to solitude and introspection.

This is not to be overdone however. The daily exercise period is fine. The tendencies are used and developed for the good of the overall personality. It is important that they continue to be so disciplined. I do not suggest that you give more time to this daily period however, now.

I believe the state was Wyoming. In your passive state you were a receiver. The room in which they sat was simple, and unadorned. No rug upon the floor. The young man whose face you saw is someone much like yourself, as far as personal characteristics and temperament are concerned.

Now since this session is a rather personal one I have some comments to Ruburt before I discuss his experience. At least a year ago I suggested that a room divider be kept up to divide his working area. I specifically mentioned the benefits that could be expected from such an arrangement, and I now most strongly repeat my remarks, suggesting that the present arrangement be kept, or another divider substituted.

The image had no specific personal meaning for him at all. He simply perceived a woman, a survival personality if you prefer. She was standing motionless within her own system, and momentarily the two systems coincided, which is not at all unusual.

(Jane has always wanted to see an apparition, or survival personality, and now has had her wish. She said the experience was not frightening at all.

(I asked Jane to keep these questions in mind, perhaps to be answered by Seth later in the session: Was the survival personality aware of Jane? Can Seth be more specific about the location in Wyoming, and the group’s abilities?

April 66. Now this is connected with Ruburt’s letter image. Personally, I have the impression of Ruburt’s father.

(My second question asked for more specific data on the July or April reference already given. “April 66. Now this is connected with Ruburt’s letter image. Personally, I have the impression of Ruburt’s father.” Again, this material is off. I could feel Jane groping about, trying to right herself. I wondered if I could cut across the confusion here by asking her to name the object, so that was the third question:

(I reminded Jane that one of the questions we had asked Seth to answer, earlier, still hadn’t been dealt with: Whether or not the woman Jane saw, as a survival personality, was aware of Jane.

Death brings a certain knowledge that things have changed, as on earth you know when you have walked from one room to another, but nothing can automatically make the survival personality understand or perceive clearly the new conditions.

A developed personality will perceive them as he would perceive new conditions in the physical environment. An undeveloped personality will keep his characteristic attitude and capabilities. There is some difference, naturally, but the degree of perception is determined by the personality itself.

Some understanding is almost automatic, simply because some elements are unmistakably different. You must understand however that basic characteristics of the personality as a whole operate more fully after death. Subconscious drives for good are liberated from egotistical fears. Do you have any other questions?

It has indeed. Whenever you find time I will give you more personal material. And whenever you feel the need to rest from your typing, Joseph, by all means say so. Ruburt worries here.