“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

(The 44th envelope experiment was held during the session. See the copies of the objects on page 51, and note the copy on the back of one of them, above. These cards are mentioned on page 40 of the 243rd session; this gave me the idea of using them for an experiment. Jane had read the 243rd session recently but had not seen the cards. She hadn’t seen them since November 1962, in fact, for they had been in my files. I placed them between two pieces of Bristol and sealed them in the usual double envelope.

(Jane: Thursday night, March 24. I woke up sometime in the middle of the night and saw the form of a woman standing by Rob’s side of the bed, not mine. The room was dark but I saw that her dress was blue. She was rather thin and fairly tall. Her face was not clear at all but her dress was clearly visible—at least the color. It was one-piece, of moderate length. I do not remember her face at all. I do recall that our bookcase, behind her, showed up well; its cream color was clear although the rest of the room was dark. I believe her head was covered. As soon as I saw the figure it disappeared. I had the feeling that something was trying to make me forget what I saw, so I quickly woke Rob and told him what I had seen. The woman did not remind me of anyone I know, or had known.

(I have long been aware that the yoga exercises have a powerful effect on me personally, and that I evidently end up in a dissociated state at times after doing them. I have neither encouraged or discouraged this effect. I have had the experience of hearing voices before but have not asked Seth to comment. He did mention my hearing music recently. The last time I heard voices they chattered away at a great rate, like a tape played too fast.

(Jane now took a long pause at 9:13. Geography is not one of her strong points, as the next sentence shows, but she has an unerring sense of direction.)

(Tonight Willy merely wanted to play. I would have preferred that Jane not be interrupted at this point, but Willy lost a toy in back of a bookcase. He made so much noise I had to lay my notes aside to take care of him. Jane waited, her eyes closed.)

There was an attraction for this reason. The group sat in a large cabin-type room, in mountainous country, I believe in the northwest portion of the state. The location begins with an S or s sound, but we will try to be more specific shortly.

(I could think of several Wyoming places beginning with the appropriate sound, but did not mention them to Jane. We had driven through the state several years ago, but Jane did not remember doing so. Nor did she recall any city or town names in the state. She said she had the idea of Cisco for a place name in the state, but thought she had chosen this because it has a western sound. It can qualify however under the S sound mentioned by Seth.

Either one should be permanent. Your home situation will be much more stable for one thing, and such an arrangement is really necessary for Ruburt’s efficiency. It enables him to direct his energy where he wants it, when he wants it. The divider may only be a symbol but it is a necessary one. It is the symbol for a discipline on his part that will enable him to override the vicissitudes of mood, and temporary inclinations.

(A single woman named Lucy lives in a small apartment above our own. A woman friend of hers died a few months ago. Neither Jane or I had ever met Lucy’s friend but we recall hearing about her death through Lucy. We remember in particular because the dead woman’s relatives gave Lucy her television set.

(Jane said she knew she was going astray in the data when I asked about the family group, although the envelope objects do mention family groups. But the question confused her; this is the first time this has happened. Jane said she had an image of a “round object”, that had to do with motion, but had no idea as to what it represented.

(We made some connections ourselves, and Seth elaborated on others. At times during the data I wasn’t sure who was speaking—Jane or Seth. Sometimes when Ruburt was mentioned, I thought it was Jane saying so, rather than Seth. After the session Jane said she had no awareness along these lines, but one of confusion concerning the data. Knowing it was wrong somehow, she tried to be objective, to get back on the right track without knowing how to go about it. There was a confusion of levels, she said, that left her groping.

(“and something spontaneous”. draws a blank with us. As stated there had been much publicity about the vaccine. I recall that Jane and I decided to take the vaccine more or less on the spur of the moment, without advance planning, but hesitate to claim that here.

(“A connection with a family group, of one, five, three and two.” Both envelope objects refer to family groups. We are not sure what the numbers refer to. Types one, two and three polio vaccines are referred to on the cards, but this leaves the five to be explained. Nor do the numbers fit our family groups completely. In the phone book the school at which we received the vaccine on each occasion is listed by avenue, but no number is given.

This time your question led us astray. I did not want Ruburt to get away from the family group idea, you see, but he kept getting specific in the wrong direction. Still keeping however the family group image.

We got involved finally, with his father, in an effort to get him away from your family. We were trying to lead him to his mother, who is an invalid, to get near the polio connection, but I am afraid we did not succeed here.

The April was an attempt to get a spring date, but with the connection with the letter from your family we ended up with the wrong year.

(Jane still didn’t remember the children’s drawings in the hallway of the school on one of the occasions when we took the vaccine, but I did—again, when Seth mentioned it.

Death brings a certain knowledge that things have changed, as on earth you know when you have walked from one room to another, but nothing can automatically make the survival personality understand or perceive clearly the new conditions.

A developed personality will perceive them as he would perceive new conditions in the physical environment. An undeveloped personality will keep his characteristic attitude and capabilities. There is some difference, naturally, but the degree of perception is determined by the personality itself.

In this case yes, but this is not always the case. Certainly not immediately.