“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

A connection with something deep. A hole underground, as a mine or a grave. The number 6.

(See the tracing of the envelope object, the holly leaf, on page 13. Some of Seth’s points were good. I thought another group of them tried to get at the origin of the envelope object—namely my place of employment—hence the reason I chose the question I asked. I also thought the hole and grave data referred to an earlier envelope experiment dealing with my place of employment.

(“A connection with something deep. A hole underground, as a mine or grave.” Seth had been talking about association regarding envelope data in the earlier part of the session, and I thought this data a good example of it. My idea was that this data referred to my place of employment, from where I obtained the object, by calling upon the death of a friend, Ezra Havens, in 1964. Ezra had worked at my place of employment, Artistic Card Co., for many years.)

(In Volume 5, see the 232nd session for Feb. 9,1966. In that session Ezra is dealt with in the envelope data with the same type of data; Seth gave Jane the grave data, signifying Ezra’s death, but at that time Jane, who did not like the idea of graves, did not use the word. This time, Jane now said, she came out with it when Seth gave her the data. We believe the grave data was to refer to Ezra, who worked at Artistic before he died, and that this in turn was to lead Jane to identify Artistic as the source of the envelope object.

(“Ruburt’s impression now is of a basement. Mine is something steep, downward, with rock. Rock walls, and hard rather than soft beneath. And perhaps water.” This is the data obtained after I asked Seth to elaborate upon the underground, or grave, data. It adds a little to the first impression given tonight. See page 17 also. Jane said now that because she hadn’t given the word grave in the envelope data in the 232nd session, involving a death, she made it a point to speak it aloud this evening when she obtained a similar impression.

(Yet note that above she has an impression of a basement instead, personally, and when speaking for Seth does not use the word grave, as she did the first time. One point I am curious about. Is water somehow involved with Ezra’s grave? Is Seth clairvoyantly aware of water in, or near, the grave? I wasn’t quick enough to ask the question after break.

The initial grave association was meant to lead Ruburt to your place of work, since in another experiment the test item was connected with a man who had died.