“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

(The evening’s conversation had largely concerned matters other than Seth, but his name had been mentioned. After the Gallaghers left Jane said she could feel Seth “buzzing around.” Shortly after this she began speaking as Seth, in an average voice; she was smoking; she gestured often, and eventually her eyes began to open. She spoke without a break until the session ended. It was a question and answer affair for the most part. I will summarize the main points covered. I did not ask Seth the type of question I would prefer being answered in writing.

(Seth began by discussing a very emotional dream I had on the night of Thursday, February 24, involving what seemed to be the death of my father. I had not asked him to go into the dream yet, but had considered it, as Jane knew. Seth explained how the dream was built around my subconscious fears concerning my father. His interpretation of the dream was detailed, and in the manner of those he dissected in the 216th and 217th sessions. The conclusions were somewhat similar, and contained Seth’s assertions that the death of my father is not imminent, although he is 75. Seth went into one of the basic problems behind the dream, the lack of an easy communication between my father and myself. He said this particular problem is more my father’s fault than mine, and went into some methods concerning how I could begin to bridge this gap.

(Seth reiterated that Jane’s book on the Seth material would be published, and that the poetry book would be published. He did not say who would publish them, and I did not ask. See page 269 of the 232nd session for background material and other references. Jane’s publisher F. Fell, has written asking for photographs pertaining to the Seth book; in connection with this and in answer to my question, Seth said he would be amused to see a reproduction of my painting, purporting to be Seth, in the book. I’d done my oil of Seth in May/June of 1965.

(I discussed with Seth the surprise with which Jane and I have watched young people take to his ideas on time, dreams, clairvoyance, telepathy, etc.; with this I speculated as to the reaction of Jane or myself had we been introduced to such ideas at the age of 20 or so. Seth said there was no cause for surprise here, that young people are intuitively aware of much more than one gives them credit for, and that when Jane and I meet young people who express interest we should help them by recommending books, giving our own ideas, etc.

(Seth also said we have helped the Gallaghers, and that they have helped us. He said I have been particularly benefited, since they have the ability to open me up, whereas I had always thought Jane benefited most, because of her very warm relationship with Peggy. Jane is more outgoing than I am.

(Seth had some interesting things to say about using suggestion. The kernel of thought here is that it is important to use whatever suggestions we want to, daily; he stressed the importance of not missing a day. He explained that in a given period of say, thirty days, the suggestions on perhaps but three or four days within that period would be really effective, and that as of now we have no way of knowing the best days. So if we miss a day, we run a chance of missing out on a particularly effective day for suggestion. Seth said that on occasion suggestion will reach all levels of the personality, that our voice will be heard throughout the personality, and that effective action will follow. There was more here but the above is the main point made.

(Two additional notes to add to the above account: Seth told me we might have witnesses to the session scheduled for Wednesday, March 2, but he did not say how many and I did not ask. He also said Jane should use suggestion to teach herself to sleep without a pillow. This would benefit her as an individual greatly, he said, and promised to go into the reasons later. When I remarked that I often woke up to notice that Jane was sleeping without a pillow, having pushed it aside in her sleep, Seth said this was an indication that her subconscious knew what it was doing. I sleep with a heavier pillow than Jane uses, and sometimes use two; Seth said my reasons were different than Jane’s and that in this case the pillows were not a hindrance.

(Seth used Jane’s pillow data to go on to explain that she had a habit of sleeping with her hands tensed, or sometimes clenched, and that this allowed tension to move up her arms, across her shoulders and into the upper back and neck. Sometimes upon arising Jane will notice a stiffness in her upper back and neck, which wears away as she becomes active. Suggestion re the hands would help, according to Seth.

(Someone had then laboriously used a magic marker to try to cross out the notes so they couldn’t be read; we were much amused to read them rather easily by holding the pages up to a light. The comments run the gamut from scorn to approval, and tell us as much about their author as they do about Jane’s book. Jane plans to ask her publisher, F. Fell, for the name of the author of the notes, and for a copy of the covering letter he refers to. We have initials. Seth also comments on the events, although we did not ask him to.

(Jane was pleased at the choice of type for the book, and the manner in which Seth’s quotes have been distinguished from her own copy. The arrival of the galleys had excited her, but she felt the excitement stemmed from not from this alone, but from the manner in which they arrived from New York City. She apparently had the situation covered in her daily predictions for the two previous days.

(Tonight’s session was held in our large front room. Jane felt good as session time arrived, and perhaps for this reason Seth spoke at a somewhat slower pace than usual. There were many very brief pauses. Jane’s eyes opened almost at once, briefly, closed, then began their usual fluctuation. Her voice was average. She lit a cigarette soon after she began.)

(“Good evening, Seth.”)

The less complicated portions of my material have been used in the ESP book, but there is enough there to give serious question to many learned gentlemen, and they will look forward to the Seth book, for the further developments that will be given.

The inverted time system should be at least briefly explained in the Seth book. I do not want to dictate to Ruburt, or tell him how to write this book. It occurs to me however that it would be advantageous to include in the middle section my ideas concerning the construction of physical matter, the inverted time system, moment points, a discussion concerning the dream universe, and the system of probability. All of this in direct quotes from the material itself. The last section of the book could then deal with what evidential material we have, and you shall have more. I am certain that Ruburt could so organize the center portion of the book so that stress could still be given to the personal story line.

(Break at 9:30. Jane was dissociated as usual. “Seth,” she said, “is being tricky tonight.” Because of her excitement in the day’s events, she felt Seth was using a more deliberate manner than usual in order to “lull” her psychologically. Jane said she was fully aware of Seth’s tactics. She announced also that she was cooperating in case Seth wanted to say anything about the notes on her ESP manuscript.

(See the tracing of the envelope object, and its accompanying drawing, on pages 313-14. We did not ask Seth to clear up each point in the data, so give below our own interpretations. As stated, the key drawing made by my boss was the actual envelope object. This is on thin white paper. The drawing on tracing paper was made by me, from instructions given to me by my boss, and is a schematic drawing to be traced onto Bristol board for final artwork.

(As can be seen, much of the envelope data given by Seth was transposed from the actual object to my own tracing-paper drawing. It might be noted that during the session, while Jane held the envelope in her hand, my tracing-paper drawing was in the same room with us, although I was unaware of this until after the session. It reposed in my jacket pocket in our front room closet; I had brought it home several days ago, then forgot about it, not having worn the jacket since. Both drawings were made about two weeks ago. Jane hadn’t known they even existed.

(Jane said that out of all the connections we made, practically all of them referred to my tracing-paper drawing rather than to the actual envelope object itself. My boss made the envelope object. Jane knows him of course, and likes him; yet the fact that I made the tracing-paper drawing evidently exerted a stronger pull emotionally. Perhaps this diverted Seth/Jane’s focus from the envelope object to a closely related object. As stated, Jane didn’t know the two drawings existed.

(Seth had mentioned this in the last session; and again tonight we had talked about it during break.

(I believed Seth’s answer showed a mild misunderstanding between us.

(Seth had mentioned this possibility during the unscheduled session of last Sunday, February 27. Jane smiled.)

(“It sounds like a busy time, then... Good night, Seth.”

(End at 10:55. Jane was dissociated as usual. Her eyes had remained closed since break, her pace rather slow. She said she felt sure about the impressions concerning my tracing-paper drawing. She was aware, she repeated, of the circular shape upon the rectangular shape formed by the folded tracing paper; she felt it was folded when Seth said so.)