“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

Now. If you would have some idea of what the probable universe system is like, then examine your own dreams, looking for those events which do not have any strong (underline) resemblance to physical events in your own conscious existence. Look for dream individuals with whom you are not acquainted in your waking life. Look for landscapes that appear bizarre or alien, for all of these exist somewhere.

You have perceived them. They do not exist in the space which you know, but neither are they nonexistent, merely imaginative toys of the dreaming mind, without substance.

You withdraw yourself to a large extent from the physical field of actuality, but you do not only withdraw from the physical system. You enter other fields of actuality. Sleep is far from a negative state. In the sleep state there are as you know several stages. Some of these you call dream states, because the ego is aware upon awakening that some kind of mental activity has occurred.

Now. First of all, some of these states of activity take place so far beneath the ego or the subconscious that you simply do not know of them.

Do you have a test for me, Joseph?

Four, the number four, having to do with several of a kind. An enclosure. A specific event, which is anticipated. These connected with the item.

(How much of this data on page 305 might pertain to the Instream object we do not know, but Jane had intuitive feelings that a bleed-through had occurred involving the envelope object. I go along with her in that such feelings are legitimate, since the basis of these experiments, as Seth has told us many times, is emotional.

(“Four, the number four, having to do with several of a kind.” There is a connection here but we did not see it at the time. Seth reminds us of it later in the session.

(I did not think to query Seth about this impression later, so do not know if my interpretation is correct.

(It involved a man I see very occasionally at my job. He works in another department, and is named Hack Rice. Jane and I see him more often when out dancing that I do on the job. He is always accompanied by his wife. Early Saturday evening, we saw Hack Rice and his wife dancing, and said hello as we usually do. At this time Hack was quiet and smiling.

The four in the beginning was merely my effort to lead Ruburt further, in counting as I did do later on, ending up with our correct six. The number, as a beginning number, was chosen because it does appear, though minutely, on the item itself. Also, there were four, initially, and then six. I came in, so to speak, when there were four.

(“Do you want to say something about the Terwilliger reference?”)

Do you have any other questions?

(“What do you think of me asking you a question once in a while during an experiment?”

Ruburt, you see, does not perceive shapes as I do. Also he does not deal with details, as far as his overall perceptive patterns are concerned, and I am teaching him to do so psychically in these tests.

This had to do with the quick and too-speedy journey of one of the young men. I perceived a fast journey.

On occasion he is in somewhat deeper a trance state, and our results are better, but this does not teach him what I want him to learn. The light trance state is ideal for my purposes. For with this training he will be able to give specificinformation, but he will also have some knowledge of how this comes about. Do you have any more questions?