“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

(The 32nd envelope experiment was held during the session. The object was a black and white Polaroid photo, taken of myself by a coworker in September 1960, at my desk at the Artistic Card Co. in Elmira. The older individual in the left background of the photo, Ezra Havens, figures in the envelope data, also. The friend who took the photo caught me by surprise during a lunch hour; hence my position in the act of stretching, and the startled expression.

(I placed the photo between the usual two pieces of Bristol and then sealed it in the usual double envelope. This photo had laid in my files for several years. Jane had seen it a long time ago, I knew, but certainly not recently. Since it was a photo of me I felt it would have an emotional attraction for her.

(Mr. Fell asked Jane to make a tape of her poems to send along with the manuscript, since he enjoyed her telephone reading. This was done this afternoon. The tape, the poetry book, and the Seth material will be mailed Thursday. Jane will be waiting to hear.

(The session was held in our front room. Jane began speaking rather slowly, with pauses. Her hands were raised to her closed eyes and she was not smoking.)

(This would be last Sunday’s unscheduled 230th session, during which Jane gave data on our life spans and those of Bill and Peggy Gallagher. It developed that some of this material was distorted.)

(Break at 9:06. Jane’s eyes opened and she was out of trance. I too had been aware of the traffic noise, although I had pulled our kitchen window closed, I thought, before the session. I now latched it tightly, which helped, and pulled the curtains over it to further deaden the sounds.

In his previous poetry, as a rule, Ruburt was not reaching deeply enough. I wanted to make these comments, and do suggest that at least a portion of a session a month be concerned with the state of your psychic and physical circumstances, for there are possibilities here from which you are not yet fully benefiting.

The results are then checked by the inner ego against the action that was chosen for actuality within the physical system. These results are then sent to certain portions of the subconscious, where through this information knowledgeis gained as to whether or not the ego and the subconscious made the best decision under the circumstances.

(Break at 10:00. Jane was dissociated as usual. Her pace had picked up once more, her eyes had begun to open, and she had smoked a cigarette. The traffic noise hadn’t bothered her.

(It was now time for the 38th Dr. Instream experiment. Once more Jane sat with her hands raised to her temples; her eyes were closed. She spoke with many short pauses, but her pace was not too slow in actuality. Resume at 10:05.)

(It was 10:15. I handed Jane the envelope for our 32nd experiment. As usual she took it from me without opening her eyes, and held it against her forehead throughout. She spoke with many short pauses.)

(Break at 10:20. Jane was dissociated as usual. Her eyes had remained closed, her pace not too slow. While she was giving the envelope data some snow broke loose from a steep third floor roof of the house, and came crashing down on a porch roof not far from our living room; the house shook. Jane heard this, she said, but was not bothered by it. But she now said the earlier interruption caused by the traffic had disturbed her, and she felt she hadn’t been at her best afterwards.

(“A connection with four people,” I felt to be a vague reference to others I worked with at Artistic Card Co., when the photo was taken in 1960. Not specific enough.

(“A four.” Jane said this was a reference to the 4 in 42, on the back of the photo in the upper left corner.

(“A five six.” Note that Jane, or Seth, pronounced these numbers as five six, rather than fifty-six. Nevertheless I felt five six referred to the age of Ezra Havens when the photo was taken in 1960. As stated, Ezra died in 1964. Inquiring at the plant the day after this session, I learned that he had been 60 when he died; this of course made him 56 in 1960. Ezra had a history of heart trouble and his death from this was not unexpected.

(“A mine.” This is interesting also. Speaking this word, Jane said, she had an impression of being underground, while not being specifically in a location such as a coal mine for instance. She was aware of sides of rocky earth, with the rocks visible. The sides were rather close together. Consciously of course Jane knows Ezra Havens is dead and buried. But while giving the data she had no impressions of Ezra. Looking back, she thinks she might have been trying to get at the impression of a grave while skirting around it. She remembers that she was going to elaborate on the mine impression by using the word underground; but instead of doing so she went on to the next impression.

(“Two people coming upstairs. Perhaps your stairs.” No one came up the stairs of our apartment house while this data was being given. The art room at Artistic, where the envelope photo was taken, is located on the second floor. Since the photo was taken at noon it is possible people were using the stairs at the end of the hall. But the impression is too vague.

(She was now smoking, and her eyes began to open at brief intervals, when she resumed at 10:37.)

Ruburt was correct. He was not at his best this evening. However he did very well for me. In the past when he was not at his best, we simply could not get this much legitimate information through. He is operating in a more efficient manner, and his attitude of late is of great benefit to us.

The mine was a case where he was not quick enough. I gave him the underground impression, but he did not translate this into grave, simply because he does not like graves.

Ruburt’s explanation of the table was correct. I did give him the white table, but he confused it with the white table in your room, knew that this was not the table to which I referred, made the correct distinction, but thought that the white indication did not belong.

My heartiest wishes to you both, and I hope, Joseph, that you make a habit of giving yourself the suggestion which I advised. If you do this regularly you will be amazed, as Ruburt was, at the results.

(End, presumably, at 10:45. As we sat talking I told Jane that Seth had discussed some of the points mentioned in the envelope data, but that since he said good night I didn’t press for more information. Yet I had the feeling Seth would continue, if Jane were willing. She said she was, and resumed at 10:46.)

Very well then, we shall. The twisting was distortive, having to do with the motion of the body. Ruburt translated this into a dancing motion, you see.

The February was simply insufficient data, for it did refer to your coming across the item, and that was all. Ruburt’s new attitude here will allow much clearer perception.

(“Just before the picture was taken?”

(Remember, the envelope photo was taken in 1960.)

The unknown element did refer to the man’s imminent death, that was not known of course at that time.

(Note that Seth’s idea of our time is quite different from our own at times. The photo was taken in 1960, and Erza died in 1964; we do not call a four-year wait imminent. At various times Seth has told us his idea of time may not coincide with ours. Without going into details I recall a prediction of his that was to materialize “soon.” It did materialize, but six months later.

That was explained later in the data. Later on we made that clear.

(End at 10:58. Jane was dissociated as usual. Her eyes had remained closed. Her pace had been average.)