“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

(The 22nd envelope test was held this evening. The test object was a ball-point pen drawing of a dog; my four-year-old nephew made it while my brother Bill’s family and Jane and I visited my parents last Sunday. I thought David’s drawing good for one his age, and added notes of my own. I intended to file it for the future, but today decided it would make a good test subject. Jane had not seen it. The drawing is on paper the weight of this page. A drawing on the back doesn’t apply here. I sealed it in the usual double envelopes, between two pieces of Bristol.

Your parents definitely let him know that they wanted a new television set, and he quite uncharacteristically told them it was impossible as far as he was concerned. His physical action, his refusal, was based upon a telepathic communication with you, in the dream state, on those evenings when you had the dreams which I interpreted for you.

This firmness on his part saved the situation, for your parents clearly understood what could be expected and what could not be expected. There is obviously no way to prove that this communication took place. On those evenings however when you dream of a certain individual, you may strongly suspect that the same individual is dreaming of you. The trouble is that the other individual most likely has not trained himself to recall his dreams, and so we can prove little.

The telepathic message picked up in dreams under such circumstances will of course be interpreted by the dreaming self in its own way, symbolically, so that the dream actions may not appear to be the same. If it were possible to examine two such allied dream communications however, the connection between them would be very clear.

Ruburt will benefit by our vacation, and also by Sherman’s book. There are some good hints in it. Obviously I cannot tell you everything at once, and the man’s abilities are well developed. We are doing quite well ourselves, considering our circumstances, and we shall do better.

(Seth was giving general reincarnational data on my family and on Jane’s as early as the 9th session, while avoiding such things as times of death, etc. Actually the concept of reincarnation made its appearance in the first session. Seth began to be more specific on family reincarnational data when he told Jane and me in a very early session that neither of us would be born again on the physical plane; this, he said, accounted for our lack of children and the desire for them. Seth explained that both of us had been parents before, experiencing both the male and female roles. We have a little material on this; we always are intending to ask for more but somehow don’t seem to get around to it. See Volume 1.)

The waterfall represented physical death on this level, you see, both of you dying, your brother and yourself; but he first and already adopting the birth position, for he will choose another life rather quickly. He is impulsively drawn to things of earth.

A somewhat unusual event today for our friend. That is, not an event that is usually within his daily schedule, involving two other people. (Pause.) The circumstance having a connection with a letter from the western portion of the country, or west of his location, from a university or large foundation of some sort, or from a man who is connected with such a group.

(See the tracing of the test object on page 131. During last Sunday there was a family gathering at my parents’ home in nearby Sayre, PA. There were twelve people in all: My parents, Jane and I, my brother Loren, his wife and son, and my brother Bill and his wife, and their two daughters and one son. Bill’s son is named David, he is four years old, and it is he who drew the test object, with a black ball-point pen on white paper.

(“A stopwatch” does not ring a bell with us. We think David’s drawing of the dog can be called an “upright composition.” The next statement, about “A group... busts rather than full figures... people about a round object, such as a table,” is quite interesting, and can apply twice, as the number twelve applied four times. My parents’ dining room table is round, and of course we ate Sunday dinner at this table. My parents also have a round mirror-topped coffee table in the living room. It is a low table; often a group of the children would be playing games on the table, and to do this they had to sit on the floor. Thus only their torsos projected above the tabletop, and were reflected in the mirror.