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(The session was held in our back room. Jane spoke while sitting down, in a quiet voice for the most part. Once again she was smoking as the session began; this meant her eyes had to open at least narrowly to find the ashtray, but she was looking down in the act and I could not actually tell whether or not they did open. Jane’s pace was quite slow, with many pauses, in the beginning. I should note here that Marian and Helen left us at 8:55, and that Helen lives just a block from us.)

It may not so develop, and subconsciously she is aware of this. I do not intend, particularly, that this information should be passed on at all. I am merely giving you the information because I picked it up during her visit.

The choice is hers to make. It should however be noted here that contact of this type, personal contact, does help. It has nothing to do with the particular abilities that are being used, per se. These operate quite as effectively through distance; and for that matter, though less often, through time.

We certainly would not want all of our sessions to be witnessed by any means, so you have no fear in that direction. On the other hand again, such experience is necessary and quite valid, and should be accepted certainly as a part of our work.

Now, speaking once more about our primary and secondary conditions, it should be said now that this will not be as simple as it might appear. Many breakdowns and also syntheses will be needed. Ruburt brought up a point, I believe; he observed that the experience of talking occurred in both the waking and the dreaming states, but did not think that these represented primaries.

Now first of all, in line with your conversation during rest period. Under no circumstances should this information I have given you be passed on to the woman involved, or to any of her friends.

This should not concern you.

The point about the test envelopes however should be well taken. This is one of the main reasons why, in the Rhine experiments, results were not given until a certain sequence of tests had been completed, or a given series.

We will at any time, Joseph, accept envelope tests, as long as they are given to me after the Instream material. There is indeed more that should be said along these lines, and perhaps at our next session we shall make certain points clearer in this regard.