“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

Autohypnosis then will be utilized in an effort to discover what experiences are common in various levels or trance states, and these shall be examined in a search for primary and secondary conditions. These experiments however are for the future. Some of the data I will give you as a guide, but much you shall do on your own. There is no way to probe the realities of consciousness except that a personality travels through all levels of consciousness open to him, and do so in such a way that he can retain and apply the information that he receives in these inner travels.

I mentioned earlier that with training you can do this in your sleep. You have no idea as yet of the amount of data that can be obtained through these efforts. The dreams will be scrutinized for many elements. Some you are familiar with and some you are not.

The investigation will allow you to probe into the realities of conscious wakefulness, extending your sensual perceptions so that you can probe further outward into physical reality. This is indeed an ambitious project. We shall proceed as we always do, slowly but steadily; and you shall change along the way, for the very actions involved will change you. I might add for the better.

This idea is not fully developed however, and is in the future, but we should work out a definite plan along these lines. And for curiosity’s sake, Ruburt may send you a message in such a manner, which he has of course earlier written out and concealed, and you may do the same, as a warming-up exercise.

The other person, a male, is an excellent receiver, by the way, and is partially in contact with Dr. Instream this evening. Whether or not he is consciously aware of this, I do not know.

I get the number 3 4 1, but do not know to what it refers. Also some turbulence in domestic rather than professional affairs for today. Having to do with a relative, and a variation in usual schedules, daily schedules. (Pause.)

I pick up also the number 5. Something to do with a document. He turns to the left now, and reaches up high, and takes down an object. (Pause.) Oval, with initials on it, or I am connecting the initials with it. It was given to him by the man with whom he was speaking the other evening, by the water, as we mentioned then.

On some occasion however I do want to discuss this matter of our sessions, as to when they should and should not be held; and I repeat: in no way do I ever attempt to influence Ruburt’s subconscious mind.

Now, I do not see you, as a rule, as a series of separate compartments, but rather more in your entirety. It is therefore difficult for me to make distinctions as to your conscious intent and subconscious intent. And in many cases your subconscious intent comes through strongly.

In any case, there are simply certain circumstances that I have set up myself as a system of balances, so that the number of sessions will stay within reason, within your idea of reason. You are perfectly capable, and Ruburt is perfectly capable, ideally speaking, of holding five sessions a week without ill effects. I do realize that this is highly impractical, so you have no worries in this regard.

I do want to point out however that the only circumstance here, or mistake to make regularity a disadvantage, is the practical, physical inconvenience which would be from your end most annoying. And Ruburt would be the first one to rebel.

You may do as you prefer now. I will end the session or continue along these lines.