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SESSION 208

(No envelope test was held during this session.

(The session was held in our back room. Jane spoke while sitting down, and at a rapid rate for the most part. She smoked throughout the session, and her eyes were open most of the time; indeed they opened wide before she had spoken for more than a few minutes. Her voice was average.)

I am glad to see such a lively discussion immediately before a session, which shows you are on your toes.

My remark in our last session, concerning the aid that Ruburt subconsciously gave me in connection with the voice effect, did not have to do with the inner voice heard by Philip. I believe this was perhaps an error in your paragraphing.

(See the 190th session in Volume 4 for notes on this. This psychological-time experience of Jane’s also involved John Bradley.)

Here now once more, let me repeat that thoughts are definite electromagnetic realities. Therefore, being actions, they affect all other actions, and if I repeat this in session after session, I do so, so that it will never be forgotten. Therefore these secondary conditions are strengthened through the very act, or misact, of thinking that they are primary rather than secondary elements in action.

I have had several matters to discuss with you; our sessions in general, the matter of spontaneity and discipline, your own fears, rather natural enough, concerning any subconscious effect I might have on Ruburt.

Both of you have been concerned with these questions, and they should be discussed. I would not like the matter of the sessions in general, and the subconscious influence question, to go by the board, and in one way or another we must find time for those matters.

I could have spoken at any time on the question of spontaneity and discipline. It may appear that Ruburt is too easy or too willing to hold sessions. However his ego is very well in control, so well in control that on occasion when I would have spoken on these very matters, I have not been allowed to do so. Of course I realize the time limitations, and others.

One small point: I have never manipulated his subconscious, in any manner. And both of you called me the evening of our last unscheduled session. We will devote some time to this whole matter.

(Break at 9:31. Jane said she was very well dissociated for a first delivery. She felt that Seth came through as a personality to a good degree. She said she could tell this by feeling her features in unaccustomed positions as Seth delivered the material. Jane’s eyes were open for most of the session, her delivery very emphatic and fast, her voice about average.

(The unscheduled session Seth referred to above is the one held on Friday, November 5, for our four young friends. See the notes about it on page 57. Consciously I had not wanted to have the session, since I thought our guests hadn’t had enough time to study related material.

Now, you may take a short break and we will continue, or end the session as you prefer.