“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

It was easier for me to make certain realignments and adjustments of a necessary nature. The other point that I wanted to make was that while your physical time, or clock time, has no overall basic reality, and is not a primary reality, that runs through various fields or systems, it is nevertheless an electromagnetic reality within your own system, for you have created it on mental terms.

It is therefore some force to be reckoned with. If it were a primary reality, you would not escape from it even in the sleeping state. Those realities which are primary and basic you can never escape from. This should give you an idea, for those realities which run through all systems, and which are primaries, are those which exist for you in all conditions of consciousness and under any circumstances.

Those realities however which appear only in certain stages of consciousness, are secondaries. This is perhaps one of the most important bits of information I have given you; for if you are bright enough, and I think that you are, then you have a yardstick by which to measure the nature of primary reality, from which all other manifestations are spun.

I have been leading up to this point in my own way, for the dream experiments that we plan will enable you to accumulate in time a list of primaries. I want you however to come across this knowledge on your own, through these experiments, for you will learn more that way.

If ever in a dream experience you defy gravity, then gravity is not a primary reality, but only a manifestation within your own physical system. If clock time is escaped within the dream state, then clock time is not a primary. What you cannot escape within any range of consciousness, can be called a Primary Condition, and you may capitalize the term.

Here now once more, let me repeat that thoughts are definite electromagnetic realities. Therefore, being actions, they affect all other actions, and if I repeat this in session after session, I do so, so that it will never be forgotten. Therefore these secondary conditions are strengthened through the very act, or misact, of thinking that they are primary rather than secondary elements in action.

I have had several matters to discuss with you; our sessions in general, the matter of spontaneity and discipline, your own fears, rather natural enough, concerning any subconscious effect I might have on Ruburt.

This, again, is not to say that it is not real, but that it is not a primary reality that is more or less constant for the inner self. If an experience is a part of all levels of consciousness—this includes the trance state—then it is a primary experience.

Yet within the dream state the familiar physical props sometimes disappear. The inner I operates very well without them. In order to manipulate a physical reality however, the inner I needs a self that is acclimated to physical conditions; hence the ego.

As you know therefore we have differentiated between an outer ego, who manipulates within physical reality, and an inner ego who directs the activities of the inner self. Now then, the next step should indeed be clear. In the main, the ego deals with secondary realities, and in the main, the inner ego deals with primaries.

Once more, even the word time is misleading, but within the boundaries of your clock reality every individual feels at times—but you see that the use of the word itself binds us—but every individual feels now and then the primary sense of existence that is not arbitrarily divided into moments and hours; and he therefore escapes from a secondary condition into the realization of a primary reality behind it.

A consistent, carefully recorded and extended examination of the dream state will, once more, permit you to compare those conditions and realities which show themselves in both the waking and dream states.

One is some years younger, and one approximately, in any case, of his own generation. One has dark hair, one has blondish or white hair. This second man wears glasses. (Pause.)