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(No envelope test was held during the session.

(The session was held in our back room and was a quiet one. Jane spoke while sitting down. Her eyes opened narrowly at times during the session. She was smoking as she began speaking, at a slow pace which grew faster as the delivery progressed.)

The sort of things with which we are involved then often imply an interruption of action of this kind, and a translation or transformation of data from one range of electromagnetic energy to another. On those occasions when Ruburt has heard me more or less directly in his psychological time experiments, there has always been on his part a sound quite independent of himself, from outside of himself, of static. If you recall, on several occasions he was so certain of the static that he checked to see if he had left the radio on by mistake.

The voice seemed to finally be formed, or to rise above this static, and on one occasion the voice was extremely loud.

(This occasion was June 17,1964, was a psy-time experience of Jane’s, and also involved her receipt of information about John Bradley. See the notes in Volume 4, on page 274, for a summary given during the 190th session. Jane says she has had this experience of static from which a voice emerged three times, all during psy-time.

(Note also that Jane had this experience during what she first thought was a dream on October 15,1965. See the 199th session and the notes on her two dreams. Seth at the time told us the first “dream” was not a dream.)

This was the result of my attempt to give the voice an independence, to form sound within your physical system without working through Ruburt’s vocal cords, but to impress your physical system kinetically.

In these instances the electromagnetic components were made to change range, so that they could be picked up by the physical ear. The static was the coming together of the components before the words were formed from them.

In Philip’s case, in one way, my job was easier, since the words were not picked up from the outside. He heard them, but clearly, from within.

They could not have been received by the physical ears because the necessary transformation of components had not been made within that range. Now, Ruburt helped me, though consciously he was not aware of this, because of the peculiar circumstances.

(Break at 9:31. Jane had been dissociated as usual for a first delivery. Her eyes had been open at times. Her voice was average but her delivery had become quite fast.

(When Seth is speaking rapidly I find that I write rapidly in order to keep up, often without much awareness of what I am putting down as far as meaning goes. Because of this I occasionally miss out on asking what may seem like obvious questions. A case in point in the above delivery would be the passage where Seth states: “Now Ruburt helped me, though consciously he was not aware of this, because of the peculiar circumstances.” I would have liked this explained at the time. As it is it must wait for the next session.

(I had planned a question to mention aloud at break, however, and this was simply whether it would have been possible for me to hear the static and the voice at the same time Jane has on her few occasions, had I been present and close to her.

In the particular instances when Ruburt heard me, I simply do not know whether or not you would have heard me, and there are several reasons for this. I impressed or affected Ruburt’s ear rather directly because this was the easiest procedure. In other words the actual sound effects, had you been listening, might have appeared as a loud whisper.

The volume in Ruburt’s case was caused by proximity, among other things, and if I set up a small sound very close to him, so that it has an explosive and loud effect; but it was directed in such a manner that it was in a large measure closed off. That is, I affected the physical system but only a small portion of it, but then directed the effect purposefully in one direction.

(During the 68th session Seth stated that eventually, as Jane’s abilities grow, it should be possible for him to speak to us from different locations in the room, independent of Jane’s position, and that it might also develop that he could speak to us from his own apparition. During this session an apparition was seen by a witness. The phenomenon lasted for upwards of an hour, and we have the drawings of it, made by the witness, Bill Macdonnel, on file. See Volume 1.)

A small note here: my candle effect was quite legitimate the other evening. This sort of thing will almost always occur without Ruburt’s conscious knowledge for a long time to come. The reason is simply that conscious knowledge of such an effect would inhibit him, regardless of his best intentions, and the energy used would block the action or effect that I was trying to deliver.

(Break at 10:05. Jane was dissociated as usual. Her eyes were closed for the most part, her voice average, her pace quite fast. She gave the impression of being really involved in the material this evening, and I was on the point of asking for a break when it came.

(Once again Jane spoke quite slowly while giving the 16th Dr. Instream data. Her eyes remained closed for the most part, opening only as she put out a cigarette. Her voice was quiet. Resume at 10:10.)

(End at 10:29. Jane was dissociated as usual. Her pace toward the end of the session was again fast.