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TES5 Session 204 November 1, 1965 26/200 (13%) John Driscoll Dudley Elms companion
– The Early Sessions: Book 5 of The Seth Material
– © 2013 Laurel Davies-Butts
– Session 204 November 1, 1965 9 PM Monday as Scheduled

[... 5 paragraphs ...]

(See also page 11 of the 200th session for notes on the clairvoyant/telepathic experiment, involving John, that Jane conducted successfully the last time he was in this territory. This concerned John’s business trip to Binghamton, NY. Jane wrote down 13 impressions; and John later confirmed 10 of them.

[... 7 paragraphs ...]

Now in the affair of the raise, you picked this up, Philip, first of all telepathically from the mind of your superior. You were also aware of it however clairvoyantly. In your mind’s eye you literally saw the letter and read its contents, though you were not aware of the actual action as it occurred. The original decision however was made somewhat previous to the meeting which you attended, but it was at that time not yet definite. And your behavior at the meeting reinforced your superior’s decision, and made it certain.

[... 5 paragraphs ...]

There will still be a connection however with another company, as I mentioned previously. And there is also an affair which will come up shortly, that will take your attention and time.

[... 38 paragraphs ...]

When you intend to leave in the middle of a session, there is hardly time for me to light into you adequately, or to answer the questions that I think we could answer. I am not harsh with you. Indeed, I have been harsh with no one, though I have been tempted at times. And I am always hampered both by time and because of mechanical difficulties, and because we must be so still and silent.

[... 7 paragraphs ...]

([John:] “Was it your voice? It happened so suddenly I didn’t have time to think. It was very unexpected.”)

[... 2 paragraphs ...]

Well, I try to be gentlemanly. While I do not try to tune in indiscriminately with those with whom I am acquainted, nevertheless my range is wide, and at times I pick up information, and I am projected to places. And so it was, and it was my voice.

[... 1 paragraph ...]

I suggest you take a break for the sake of Joseph’s fingers. If you have time we shall explain this evening. If not we shall explain another time.

[... 8 paragraphs ...]

(John did tell us the event happened about a month ago. This places it in time a couple of weeks before we saw John last time, during the Binghamton meeting affair. But then John hadn’t witnessed a session, and the voice episode had slipped his mind, two weeks ago. John heard the voice in a dancing establishment called The Elms, in Elmira Heights, which is a small town adjacent to Elmira. Jane and I have been there once, many months ago.

(As far as we know, this is the first overt experience we have encountered where Seth has spoken to another party while separated, in our time and distance, from Jane. It raises many questions if it is a legitimate experience; if legitimate, it would seem to be a most significant development. We are well aware that it could be said Seth was merely taking credit for another person’s psychic experience.

[... 2 paragraphs ...]

(It was now time for the 13th Dr. Instream clairvoyant test. Jane resumed speaking with her eyes closed and while sitting down. Her voice was good; her pace was much faster while giving this material than in any of the previous sessions. She used but a very few brief pauses. Resume at 10:01.)

[... 12 paragraphs ...]

(Break at 10:12. Jane reported that she was very well dissociated—far-out, as she puts it. Her eyes had remained closed. She was aware that she had given much material on Dr. Instream, comparatively speaking, in a short time.

(As break arrived we heard John Bradley returning up the stairs. He had succeeded in postponing his business appointment until tomorrow. We asked him to say no more about his voice experience yet, to see what else Seth could pick up on it. Instead the conversation turned to the fact that last week Jane was offered a part- time job as a dancer in a local supper club. Both of us like to dance, and Jane is an expert dancer. Now during break we amused ourselves discussing some of the humorous aspects of such a potential situation.

[... 11 paragraphs ...]

(The Green Pastures is the name of another bar in town. Jane and I have been there a few times, but not recently. As stated earlier, Jane and I visited The Elms, the scene of John’s adventure, once some months ago. We did not enter the bar however, but stayed in the dancing room of the establishment; thus we have no knowledge of the bar, what decorations it might have had, etc.

(At break John confirmed that there was a child in the woman’s background, and a legal paper. He heard both mentioned in a general way during his conversation with the woman, and cannot recall more details at the moment. He had not told us this consciously. John said another man was with the woman when he talked to her, and that actually he spent as much time talking with her male companion as he did the woman. John was unable to say whether, in his opinion, the male companion is the man referred to by Seth. John had not told us before this that the woman had had a male companion.

[... 1 paragraph ...]

We will say no more concerning the family situation for several reasons, which you shall undoubtedly know in good time. The sister of which you spoke is indeed involved, but not in the precise manner in which you imagine.

You have been coming to sessions off and on now for some time, and I appreciate your interest, and we shall do what we can for you; and we have made headway on Ruburt’s part.

I will suggest a short break and we shall continue. How can you want to know the future so badly, and be so afraid of knowing it at the same time?

[... 1 paragraph ...]

This is not the case, for your own expectations are the actions which mold what you call the future, and it is never static and never definite; for you can change it at any moment, as any action changes any other action. You are always free to act, but every action changes that which is acted upon, and you constantly change your so-called future; and the events that I see may indeed be changed at any time.

[... 1 paragraph ...]

(Once again Seth was racing along, as far as my writing speed was concerned. Jane’s eyes had, I believe, opened briefly a few times; her face was turning more toward John much of the time here. She gave no notice that she heard me.)

[... 15 paragraphs ...]

Now, when you speak of free will you automatically think in terms of your own time sequence, for you are caught within it. Those who are not within it can see past, present and future, and the interchange of action.

[... 4 paragraphs ...]

(Seth’s remark above, “turn into that dream”, involves the fourth inner sense: the Conceptual Sense. He discussed this to some extent in the 37th and 38th sessions. See Volume 1: “The fourth inner sense involves cognition of a concept in much more than your usual intellectual terms. It involves experiencing a concept completely, to the extent of being a concept completely. You do not leave what you call yourself behind; you merely change what you are into a different pattern. Concepts have what we call electrical and chemical composition. The molecules and ions of the consciousness change into the concept, which is thereby directly experienced. You cannot truly understand or appreciate any other thing unless you can become that thing. You can best achieve some approximation of an idea by using psychological time...”)

[... 11 paragraphs ...]

(Break again at 11:19. The above information is correct, as John Bradley verified the day after this session. John occasionally has free time between his visits to doctor’s offices, and on November 2 he used some of it to check up on Seth, and give us the information. Without seeing the woman in question again, he located her house. He did not tell us how he did this, or give us the name of the street on which she lives. He drew a map of the location of the house in relation to The Elms, however; a copy of the map is included at the end of this session, and it can be seen that the house is in the northeastern section of Elmira Heights, as well as also being northeast of Elmira, and is west of the location of The Elms.

[... 9 paragraphs ...]

Now, Philip. Indeed when I speak of the future I do see possibilities, and speak in terms of trends of activities that may change. This is why, often, our specific dates do not materialize as given, or why events foreseen do not occur as given. For at no time are any events predestined. There should be no such word in your vocabulary, for with every moment you change, and every heartbeat is an action, and every action changes every other action.

[... 21 paragraphs ...]

(Jane resumed at an average pace, with her eyes open part of the time, at 11:51.)

[... 11 paragraphs ...]

(I was in my studio at the back of our apartment, putting the notes for this session away, when Seth came through again briefly as Jane and John talked in the front room. The exchange was finished by the time I walked back to them. It was to the effect that within three years Jane and I would have our own house.

[... 1 paragraph ...]

(Jane and I do not usually use the recorder for sessions because it doubles the time involved in transcribing notes. We realize spontaneity is important, but our time is limited. We have considered holding just one longer session a week, in which the recorder could be used. Jane prefers two sessions a week personally, however, and many sessions ago Seth also said he preferred more than one session a week.)

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