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TES5 Session 204 November 1, 1965 44/200 (22%) John Driscoll Dudley Elms companion
– The Early Sessions: Book 5 of The Seth Material
– © 2013 Laurel Davies-Butts
– Session 204 November 1, 1965 9 PM Monday as Scheduled

[... 2 paragraphs ...]

(The session was witnessed by John Bradley. John is from Williamsport, PA; he is a salesman for Searle Drug and has witnessed quiet a few sessions. He has also been the subject of some of Seth’s material. Jane, incidentally, felt strongly that John would witness the session, so she was not surprised when he visited us unannounced at 8:30 PM. John told us he could stay only until 10 PM. In the meantime he had a little story to tell us.

(John spent last week making the rounds of doctors’ offices in Williamsport. One day while driving about town he felt strongly that he should return home. He felt that mail awaited him, that the letter was from his district manager, and that it concerned a raise for him. Ego-wise, John doubted the whole thing, especially so since he had not been getting along too well with his superior recently.

(But he did drive home. As he walked out to his mailbox he felt certain the letter was there. It was; it did confirm that he had been given a raise by the company. The raise was totally unexpected, he told us. John wondered whether Seth would comment upon the experience.

(See also page 11 of the 200th session for notes on the clairvoyant/telepathic experiment, involving John, that Jane conducted successfully the last time he was in this territory. This concerned John’s business trip to Binghamton, NY. Jane wrote down 13 impressions; and John later confirmed 10 of them.

[... 3 paragraphs ...]

My particular welcome this evening to our friend Philip. As he knows his experience was indeed legitimate, and he can expect more of them.

[... 4 paragraphs ...]

(This is the Binghamton meeting referred to here. John attended it on Tuesday, October 19, and it was while he was engaged in this endeavor that Jane tuned in on his activities. John clashed with his superior at the meeting, and because of his outspoken actions had no thought of getting a raise.)

It was not however your general behavior that made this difference, but a particular remark which was addressed I believe to the meeting at large; and which was a tip-off to your dissatisfaction, and which in some way was aimed particularly, he believed, at your immediate superior.

[... 2 paragraphs ...]

(Jane was in a good mood and speaking rapidly for Seth. I had been writing practically at top speed since the session began. At break John confirmed that he had made a remark of dissatisfaction to the meeting at large. It concerned expense-account allowances for gas and oil, and John’s superior took this as aimed at him personally; the two men clashed on the floor, verbally.)

[... 8 paragraphs ...]

We have to work this way with our friend Ruburt, though he is indeed improving. In regards to your raise, the number 3 comes up. I am trying to loosen Ruburt up here, for he is always afraid of wrong results, and this hampers me.

[... 7 paragraphs ...]

(John Bradley told us that when Seth mentioned his becoming aware of more inner communications in the future, he felt a twinge of fear. John said one of his favorite expressions has been that he had never wanted to be able to read tomorrow’s paper today. I answered that perhaps John was beginning to change his mind at least subconsciously.

[... 1 paragraph ...]

(John wasn’t sure what financial venture involving parents could mean, although he described a complicated tax and property and business transaction that his father-in-law is involved in at the moment in Bradford, PA. The father-in-law has a great deal of money tied up in the venture and is trying to extricate himself.

(Before the session Jane and I asked John if he would cooperate in some telepathic/clairvoyant experiments like those involving the Gallaghers recently. John would make a good subject, we thought, because he lives some distance away and Seth could tune in practically whenever he pleased.

[... 5 paragraphs ...]

You see, in a full session dealing with an individual, I can interweave material. Ruburt cannot follow me then and he cannot block me then. He does not indeed block me on purpose, but the results would be the same.

[... 1 paragraph ...]

There will be others if you remain with the company, for much of your superior’s income is dependent upon your own, and he has only at the most two other salesman in his territory which are lucrative for him. One is a short man, already beginning to bald. And your superior himself worries about his own position.

This is a general-enough statement, but at the last meeting he had cause to wonder about it even more.

[... 1 paragraph ...]

(To avoid too many notes at break, I can add some comments as the session progresses. At next break, John confirmed Seth’s statement that his superior was worried about his job. John also agreed with Seth that only two other salesman are selling well in the division. The short man who is already beginning to bald, John knows as Bill Driscoll; John told us he is a very good salesman and the only one in the division fitting that description. Driscoll is not old, John said, merely balding prematurely.

[... 23 paragraphs ...]

(John had to leave to make a telephone call regarding business. He had decided to see if he could postpone his business appointment until tomorrow. Before he left however, he described to Jane and me a plan that he had broached to his brothers and sisters, concerning the care of his invalid mother in Philadelphia. John said this could be the family situation that is developing, and that Seth referred to.

(I might mention here a situation that John, Jane and I, and Bill Gallagher have long been aware of. This is the fact that John, Jane and Bill all have mothers who were, or are, bedridden with arthritis. Bill’s mother has died. Quite a while ago Seth remarked that this fact is one of the reasons John and Bill were drawn to the sessions; but he has not elaborated.

[... 3 paragraphs ...]

(John had his hat and coat on, and left at 9:56. Jane said Seth was extremely well tuned in on John tonight; she hoped that he would be able to return this evening while things were going so well. Jane also said she felt that Seth had more information on John’s mother, but that she had blocked it.

[... 3 paragraphs ...]

(If genuine, does this experience imply an expansion of Jane’s abilities, along with Seth’s, or does it merely mean that once others accept the possibility of psychic expansion, they too become receivers? This would imply the separate existence of Seth; he has claimed all along to be an “energy personality essence.”

[... 7 paragraphs ...]

Is he perhaps at a play, or theater production? (Pause.)

The hypnosis experiments have not been productive these last few days for Dr. Instream, though they may have seemed so. Again a snag develops, which may or may not yet appear to him. There is something that holds him back, that he knows but does not realize that he knows.

[... 2 paragraphs ...]

They suggest matchsticks. I sense a turnabout for him. (Pause.) An intermission now, I sense. He speaks with many people. (Pause at 10:11.)

[... 3 paragraphs ...]

(As break arrived we heard John Bradley returning up the stairs. He had succeeded in postponing his business appointment until tomorrow. We asked him to say no more about his voice experience yet, to see what else Seth could pick up on it. Instead the conversation turned to the fact that last week Jane was offered a part- time job as a dancer in a local supper club. Both of us like to dance, and Jane is an expert dancer. Now during break we amused ourselves discussing some of the humorous aspects of such a potential situation.

[... 12 paragraphs ...]

(At break John confirmed that there was a child in the woman’s background, and a legal paper. He heard both mentioned in a general way during his conversation with the woman, and cannot recall more details at the moment. He had not told us this consciously. John said another man was with the woman when he talked to her, and that actually he spent as much time talking with her male companion as he did the woman. John was unable to say whether, in his opinion, the male companion is the man referred to by Seth. John had not told us before this that the woman had had a male companion.

(John said the conversation he was involved in was innocuous enough, at least on the surface, but that when he head the voice speak to him within he became more cautious. He has not seen the woman or been to The Elms since.)

[... 10 paragraphs ...]

(John thought he agreed with Seth’s statements on free will. He said he has been concerned for some years with the conflict between the idea of predestination and free will, theologically speaking, and believes his questions stem from his early school days.

(Reiterating, John told us the talk he engaged in with the woman and her male companion at The Elms, about a month ago, seemed innocent enough on the surface. The two warning words he heard so clearly within, “No, no,” had no direct bearing on the conversation of the moment, he said; yet they were so definite, so emphatic and even urgent, that he paid heed to them. The adjectives are John’s.

(John was now considering trying to locate the woman, to check up on Seth. He was joking, yet perhaps serious also. He was curious however, and was talking about whether he should really make the attempt when Jane resumed in a good voice, and with her eyes closed at 10:50.)

[... 7 paragraphs ...]

(John told us at break that he wasn’t sure either, but that he thought the woman was a Catholic.)

[... 6 paragraphs ...]

(Seth’s remark above, “turn into that dream”, involves the fourth inner sense: the Conceptual Sense. He discussed this to some extent in the 37th and 38th sessions. See Volume 1: “The fourth inner sense involves cognition of a concept in much more than your usual intellectual terms. It involves experiencing a concept completely, to the extent of being a concept completely. You do not leave what you call yourself behind; you merely change what you are into a different pattern. Concepts have what we call electrical and chemical composition. The molecules and ions of the consciousness change into the concept, which is thereby directly experienced. You cannot truly understand or appreciate any other thing unless you can become that thing. You can best achieve some approximation of an idea by using psychological time...”)

[... 8 paragraphs ...]

(John now told us that he knew the name of the woman in question, but did not give it to us; we requested that he wait on this.

(The Elms is actually in Elmira Heights, which is like a suburb of Elmira to the northeast. We were discussing Seth’s location of the woman’s house as he gave it on page 47, when Jane came through as Seth, briefly at 11:18.)

[... 1 paragraph ...]

(Break again at 11:19. The above information is correct, as John Bradley verified the day after this session. John occasionally has free time between his visits to doctor’s offices, and on November 2 he used some of it to check up on Seth, and give us the information. Without seeing the woman in question again, he located her house. He did not tell us how he did this, or give us the name of the street on which she lives. He drew a map of the location of the house in relation to The Elms, however; a copy of the map is included at the end of this session, and it can be seen that the house is in the northeastern section of Elmira Heights, as well as also being northeast of Elmira, and is west of the location of The Elms.

[... 7 paragraphs ...]

(John also told us later that he felt the woman herself was the one who was 27; certainly not over 30, in his opinion. Her male companion was older, John said, but he did not know by how much.

(Note by John Bradley, June 8,1966: “Companion at bar with woman was a car salesman and about 24-26 years old. He is not the man involved with the woman. This man is 38-39 years old.”)

[... 6 paragraphs ...]

([John:] “What does he look like?”)

Give us a moment. Bigger than the man I described, with more hair, though he is older. I believe he wears glasses.

[... 1 paragraph ...]

With more hair, though he is older. One of the men I believe is precisely 37. The second man occasionally wears glasses. His hair is a shade of brown, though not a definite well-defined color.

([John:] “What specific sports is he interested in?”)

[... 15 paragraphs ...]

However our friend has developed his abilities in ways that he will not be able to close off, and that is after all not so terrible indeed. He shall not be reading tomorrow’s newspaper today, but he shall be more receptive to communications from the inner self, and his own ego shall be better informed, though this will not necessarily make it any happier.

[... 5 paragraphs ...]

(End at midnight. Jane was dissociated as usual. She said she thought Seth interrupted the material on John’s daughter, which Seth intended as another display of telepathy, because he realized the hour was late and the material too long and involved.)

[... 2 paragraphs ...]

(Seth came through with this, we believe, because he had expressed a wish that we had our recorder going this evening, and because he evidently wanted to sound out strong and loud and could not do so in an apartment house. Seth told John our house would have privacy.

(Jane and I do not usually use the recorder for sessions because it doubles the time involved in transcribing notes. We realize spontaneity is important, but our time is limited. We have considered holding just one longer session a week, in which the recorder could be used. Jane prefers two sessions a week personally, however, and many sessions ago Seth also said he preferred more than one session a week.)

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