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TES5 Session 204 November 1, 1965 30/200 (15%) John Driscoll Dudley Elms companion
– The Early Sessions: Book 5 of The Seth Material
– © 2013 Laurel Davies-Butts
– Session 204 November 1, 1965 9 PM Monday as Scheduled

[... 16 paragraphs ...]

Perhaps we can get the specific remark, perhaps not, but if we do we will slip it in.

[... 7 paragraphs ...]

I believe this has to do with parents rather than with your wife or children, and also that it involves a financial nature. We will see what else we can get through on this.

[... 3 paragraphs ...]

We will however do what we can, and explanations can come later.

[... 3 paragraphs ...]

([John:] “Yes you do.”)

[... 8 paragraphs ...]

We could have done fairly well this evening with you were you here, or were you able to remain for the full session. On another occasion we will see more fully what we can do.

[... 1 paragraph ...]

The conversation had to do with policy on the company’s part. But not only generally on a high level, but policy as it filtered down through the hierarchy; and a particular policy, a way of treatment.

[... 25 paragraphs ...]

Well, I try to be gentlemanly. While I do not try to tune in indiscriminately with those with whom I am acquainted, nevertheless my range is wide, and at times I pick up information, and I am projected to places. And so it was, and it was my voice.

But then, Ruburt has heard my voice and did not recognize it. For I do not speak like this under normal circumstances. I did not mean to intrude.

[... 5 paragraphs ...]

My friend, you had better leave now. And if you can return by eleven, then do so.

[... 10 paragraphs ...]

I see a page number, 375 I believe, and a passage brings to mind hooded figures. Connotations of the Middle Ages, and of a female with a headdress that is pointed, and then a veil. I do not know, perhaps a connection here with the heroine of an opera, or medieval novel. And still speaking of the passage, a room of medieval surroundings such as a castle. These are impressions connected with the page. (Pause.)

[... 1 paragraph ...]

Perhaps this is a scene from the novel or an opera, for now there are two very tall candles, with golden holders and many shadows. (Pause.) And the entrance of a male character. Perhaps a deathbed scene, but I do not hear music, and it would seem that music would be connected with an opera. But the scene is macabre.

[... 3 paragraphs ...]

Now, separately, I sense a framework, as of a house that is not yet fully constructed. It may have to do with a young relative of his (pause), or close friend, or someone connected with him. The house is on a hill. The framework is there but it is open, with the walls not yet constructed completely. (Pause.)

[... 6 paragraphs ...]

I do indeed find the conversation very interesting. As you know I make no attempt to regulate Ruburt’s activities, and I should find it highly hilarious to find him in such a position, or positions. We will leave the matter there, with one addition: I do not approve personally. This does not mean however that I would go so far as to caution him against it.

[... 13 paragraphs ...]

You have been coming to sessions off and on now for some time, and I appreciate your interest, and we shall do what we can for you; and we have made headway on Ruburt’s part.

[... 6 paragraphs ...]

I do however suggest your break.

[... 8 paragraphs ...]

There is a house, not in the western section of town, the third or fourth house in the middle of a block, in which she dwells. She would have used you quite unconsciously. But in many ways she is very strong, and you would have been driven to return. My words were a warning, and I do not warn without reason, and I do not cry wolf.

[... 1 paragraph ...]

I am unsure here. I believe she was a Catholic, and that to some extent this had something to do with her own difficulties.

[... 4 paragraphs ...]

You have nothing to do with making the movie, nothing to do with the plot or the characters, yet you can see the ending, and from the action you know what the developments will bring. You in no way affected the developments within the action; nor were they predestined, but worked out by the characters involved.

[... 2 paragraphs ...]

(Seth’s remark above, “turn into that dream”, involves the fourth inner sense: the Conceptual Sense. He discussed this to some extent in the 37th and 38th sessions. See Volume 1: “The fourth inner sense involves cognition of a concept in much more than your usual intellectual terms. It involves experiencing a concept completely, to the extent of being a concept completely. You do not leave what you call yourself behind; you merely change what you are into a different pattern. Concepts have what we call electrical and chemical composition. The molecules and ions of the consciousness change into the concept, which is thereby directly experienced. You cannot truly understand or appreciate any other thing unless you can become that thing. You can best achieve some approximation of an idea by using psychological time...”)

[... 1 paragraph ...]

Do I go too swiftly, Joseph?

[... 3 paragraphs ...]

I will here suggest a break again, out of deference to our Joseph’s diligence; and if you have any questions, Philip, I will do my best to answer them. And if you resented my intrusion, I am indeed regretful.

[... 11 paragraphs ...]

Now the man involved has something to do with mechanics. I am not sure of the age. Between, I should say, 27 and 37, though this is not precise, I know. I have the feeling she may be older.

(John told us later that the male companion with the woman was a car salesman; hence Jane’s possible associative connection with mechanics. Still, as said before, we do not know for sure whether the woman’s male companion of that evening is the male referred to by Seth.

[... 2 paragraphs ...]

Now, Philip. Indeed when I speak of the future I do see possibilities, and speak in terms of trends of activities that may change. This is why, often, our specific dates do not materialize as given, or why events foreseen do not occur as given. For at no time are any events predestined. There should be no such word in your vocabulary, for with every moment you change, and every heartbeat is an action, and every action changes every other action.

[... 12 paragraphs ...]

I think of a game like hockey, though I do not precisely see how hockey could be involved. Perhaps it is golf, then, with an instrument of this sort. (Jane, her eyes closed, gestured as though stroking or swinging, her arms stiff.) If so however there is a connection, perhaps in younger years, with skating, as on ice.

There may be a secondary interest in a game like tennis, but I do not see anything else in that line. I feel a connection with bowling, but believe this to be a mistaken conception, perhaps on Philip’s part.

[... 10 paragraphs ...]

There is more pertaining to our friend Philip, but for several reasons we shall let it lie for now. The reasons have to do with my judgment rather than any fear of distortion.

[... 4 paragraphs ...]

We then bid you all a most fond and affectionate good evening. We may indeed end up with another session before Monday, but if so we shall see to it that you do not write up all our notes. I do my best in my own way to look out for all of you, and yet I am also limited as to my actions within your system. You must often read between the lines when I speak. Subconsciously you pick up more than you realize, and subconsciously you make preparations for events of which you may be consciously unaware. I cannot spell all things out, and I would not do so if I could.

[... 4 paragraphs ...]

(Seth came through with this, we believe, because he had expressed a wish that we had our recorder going this evening, and because he evidently wanted to sound out strong and loud and could not do so in an apartment house. Seth told John our house would have privacy.

(Jane and I do not usually use the recorder for sessions because it doubles the time involved in transcribing notes. We realize spontaneity is important, but our time is limited. We have considered holding just one longer session a week, in which the recorder could be used. Jane prefers two sessions a week personally, however, and many sessions ago Seth also said he preferred more than one session a week.)

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