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TES5 Session 204 November 1, 1965 40/200 (20%) John Driscoll Dudley Elms companion
– The Early Sessions: Book 5 of The Seth Material
– © 2013 Laurel Davies-Butts
– Session 204 November 1, 1965 9 PM Monday as Scheduled

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(The session was witnessed by John Bradley. John is from Williamsport, PA; he is a salesman for Searle Drug and has witnessed quiet a few sessions. He has also been the subject of some of Seth’s material. Jane, incidentally, felt strongly that John would witness the session, so she was not surprised when he visited us unannounced at 8:30 PM. John told us he could stay only until 10 PM. In the meantime he had a little story to tell us.

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(But he did drive home. As he walked out to his mailbox he felt certain the letter was there. It was; it did confirm that he had been given a raise by the company. The raise was totally unexpected, he told us. John wondered whether Seth would comment upon the experience.

[... 1 paragraph ...]

(The session was held in our front room, and was free of interruptions or distractions. It was obvious that Jane was in a good mood before the session, and Seth reflected this. Jane began speaking while sitting down and with her eyes closed; her pace was quite fast, her voice definitely stronger and more active than usual. She began speaking actually at 8:58.)

[... 1 paragraph ...]

(“Good evening, Seth.”)

[... 9 paragraphs ...]

(Jane was in a good mood and speaking rapidly for Seth. I had been writing practically at top speed since the session began. At break John confirmed that he had made a remark of dissatisfaction to the meeting at large. It concerned expense-account allowances for gas and oil, and John’s superior took this as aimed at him personally; the two men clashed on the floor, verbally.)

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(Again, see the 199th session, in which Seth’s information on drug companies in Minneapolis is confirmed by John. John now laughed at Seth/Jane’s amusing reference to an affair.

([John:] “What kind of an affair, Seth?”)

[... 7 paragraphs ...]

(Briefly, Seth now burst out in a loud, deep and humorous voice.)

[... 5 paragraphs ...]

(John Bradley told us that when Seth mentioned his becoming aware of more inner communications in the future, he felt a twinge of fear. John said one of his favorite expressions has been that he had never wanted to be able to read tomorrow’s paper today. I answered that perhaps John was beginning to change his mind at least subconsciously.

[... 2 paragraphs ...]

(Before the session Jane and I asked John if he would cooperate in some telepathic/clairvoyant experiments like those involving the Gallaghers recently. John would make a good subject, we thought, because he lives some distance away and Seth could tune in practically whenever he pleased.

[... 10 paragraphs ...]

(To avoid too many notes at break, I can add some comments as the session progresses. At next break, John confirmed Seth’s statement that his superior was worried about his job. John also agreed with Seth that only two other salesman are selling well in the division. The short man who is already beginning to bald, John knows as Bill Driscoll; John told us he is a very good salesman and the only one in the division fitting that description. Driscoll is not old, John said, merely balding prematurely.

[... 4 paragraphs ...]

(Seth delivered this material in a very amused manner. John laughed.

[... 9 paragraphs ...]

(Seth/Jane, smiling, eyes closed:)

[... 8 paragraphs ...]

(John had to leave to make a telephone call regarding business. He had decided to see if he could postpone his business appointment until tomorrow. Before he left however, he described to Jane and me a plan that he had broached to his brothers and sisters, concerning the care of his invalid mother in Philadelphia. John said this could be the family situation that is developing, and that Seth referred to.

(I might mention here a situation that John, Jane and I, and Bill Gallagher have long been aware of. This is the fact that John, Jane and Bill all have mothers who were, or are, bedridden with arthritis. Bill’s mother has died. Quite a while ago Seth remarked that this fact is one of the reasons John and Bill were drawn to the sessions; but he has not elaborated.

(John was still talking when Jane spoke up as Seth abruptly at 9:55. She was sitting down; she looked directly at John, her eyes wide open and very dark. Her voice was deep.)

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([John:] “Okay, Seth.”

(John had his hat and coat on, and left at 9:56. Jane said Seth was extremely well tuned in on John tonight; she hoped that he would be able to return this evening while things were going so well. Jane also said she felt that Seth had more information on John’s mother, but that she had blocked it.

(John hadn’t mentioned the episode about hearing the voice in the bar to us previously, and at break Jane and I asked him to say no more about it to us; we hoped to see if Seth could say more about the circumstances instead, should John make it back to the session.

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(As far as we know, this is the first overt experience we have encountered where Seth has spoken to another party while separated, in our time and distance, from Jane. It raises many questions if it is a legitimate experience; if legitimate, it would seem to be a most significant development. We are well aware that it could be said Seth was merely taking credit for another person’s psychic experience.

(If genuine, does this experience imply an expansion of Jane’s abilities, along with Seth’s, or does it merely mean that once others accept the possibility of psychic expansion, they too become receivers? This would imply the separate existence of Seth; he has claimed all along to be an “energy personality essence.”

(This thought comes to me: Quite a few sessions ago Seth remarked that an event would occur which would bind John, Jane and I together. I searched briefly for the remark but did not locate it.

[... 14 paragraphs ...]

(As break arrived we heard John Bradley returning up the stairs. He had succeeded in postponing his business appointment until tomorrow. We asked him to say no more about his voice experience yet, to see what else Seth could pick up on it. Instead the conversation turned to the fact that last week Jane was offered a part- time job as a dancer in a local supper club. Both of us like to dance, and Jane is an expert dancer. Now during break we amused ourselves discussing some of the humorous aspects of such a potential situation.

[... 12 paragraphs ...]

(At break John confirmed that there was a child in the woman’s background, and a legal paper. He heard both mentioned in a general way during his conversation with the woman, and cannot recall more details at the moment. He had not told us this consciously. John said another man was with the woman when he talked to her, and that actually he spent as much time talking with her male companion as he did the woman. John was unable to say whether, in his opinion, the male companion is the man referred to by Seth. John had not told us before this that the woman had had a male companion.

[... 7 paragraphs ...]

(Once again Seth was racing along, as far as my writing speed was concerned. Jane’s eyes had, I believe, opened briefly a few times; her face was turning more toward John much of the time here. She gave no notice that she heard me.)

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(John thought he agreed with Seth’s statements on free will. He said he has been concerned for some years with the conflict between the idea of predestination and free will, theologically speaking, and believes his questions stem from his early school days.

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(John was now considering trying to locate the woman, to check up on Seth. He was joking, yet perhaps serious also. He was curious however, and was talking about whether he should really make the attempt when Jane resumed in a good voice, and with her eyes closed at 10:50.)

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([John, laughing:] “Correct, Seth.”)

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(Seth’s remark above, “turn into that dream”, involves the fourth inner sense: the Conceptual Sense. He discussed this to some extent in the 37th and 38th sessions. See Volume 1: “The fourth inner sense involves cognition of a concept in much more than your usual intellectual terms. It involves experiencing a concept completely, to the extent of being a concept completely. You do not leave what you call yourself behind; you merely change what you are into a different pattern. Concepts have what we call electrical and chemical composition. The molecules and ions of the consciousness change into the concept, which is thereby directly experienced. You cannot truly understand or appreciate any other thing unless you can become that thing. You can best achieve some approximation of an idea by using psychological time...”)

[... 9 paragraphs ...]

(The Elms is actually in Elmira Heights, which is like a suburb of Elmira to the northeast. We were discussing Seth’s location of the woman’s house as he gave it on page 47, when Jane came through as Seth, briefly at 11:18.)

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(Break again at 11:19. The above information is correct, as John Bradley verified the day after this session. John occasionally has free time between his visits to doctor’s offices, and on November 2 he used some of it to check up on Seth, and give us the information. Without seeing the woman in question again, he located her house. He did not tell us how he did this, or give us the name of the street on which she lives. He drew a map of the location of the house in relation to The Elms, however; a copy of the map is included at the end of this session, and it can be seen that the house is in the northeastern section of Elmira Heights, as well as also being northeast of Elmira, and is west of the location of The Elms.

[... 6 paragraphs ...]

(John told us later that the male companion with the woman was a car salesman; hence Jane’s possible associative connection with mechanics. Still, as said before, we do not know for sure whether the woman’s male companion of that evening is the male referred to by Seth.

[... 19 paragraphs ...]

(John identified the second man described by Seth as a Mr. Dudley, and said that like Bill Driscoll, Dudley is a good salesman. Dudley has brown nondescript hair, is older than Driscoll but not bigger, and plays tennis and handball. Dudley used to play golf, John said, hence Seth’s gesturing as though acting out a sport which required some kind of hitting or swinging instrument.

(John thinks Mr. Dudley’s sales are on the way up, also, but has seen no actual figures on which to base that estimate specifically. Dudley also sometimes wears glasses. Jane felt Seth had wanted to give this information earlier but that she blocked it.

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(Since the hour was late, John told us the name of the woman discussed by Seth: Judy Fuller. Later we found a June Fuller in the phone book, but this Fuller does not live on the correct street, either. Either Judy Fuller does not have a telephone or it is under another name.

[... 10 paragraphs ...]

(“Good night, Seth.”

(End at midnight. Jane was dissociated as usual. She said she thought Seth interrupted the material on John’s daughter, which Seth intended as another display of telepathy, because he realized the hour was late and the material too long and involved.)

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(I was in my studio at the back of our apartment, putting the notes for this session away, when Seth came through again briefly as Jane and John talked in the front room. The exchange was finished by the time I walked back to them. It was to the effect that within three years Jane and I would have our own house.

(Seth came through with this, we believe, because he had expressed a wish that we had our recorder going this evening, and because he evidently wanted to sound out strong and loud and could not do so in an apartment house. Seth told John our house would have privacy.

(Jane and I do not usually use the recorder for sessions because it doubles the time involved in transcribing notes. We realize spontaneity is important, but our time is limited. We have considered holding just one longer session a week, in which the recorder could be used. Jane prefers two sessions a week personally, however, and many sessions ago Seth also said he preferred more than one session a week.)

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