“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

I am pleased that he has been following my suggestions.

The dreamer is not aware of the actual passing of physical hours. He is only aware of the interior time element as it appears within the framework of his dream. The personality will be seen to operate in some manners that would be considered quite normal, if he were in the waking state.

He acts, speaks, walks, talks, makes certain deductions. He responds to interior stimuli. The personality also operates within the dream state in ways that would not be considered normal in the waking state. He travels through space in moments. He speaks with those who do not exist within physical reality. He sees parents who have died in physical ways, and in his dreams he knows, on many occasions, what other characters think within the dream context.

You see, then, that while the personality can act in a more or less normal manner while in the dream state, he can also act in ways that are denied him in periods of so-called normal consciousness. He has freedoms and abilities and talents in the dream state of which his waking self may be unfamiliar.

It would seem to be that the waking personality could learn much from his sleeping counterpart, and this is indeed the case. Theoretically speaking, and in theory only, anything that a personality can do or achieve in the sleeping state, he can do and achieve in the waking state. The limitations are those adopted by the ego, in many cases for good reason.

(Bill Gallagher voiced the thought that during delivery there is always a change in Jane’s face, but that he couldn’t articulate it. He said he has been aware of this since the first session he and Peggy witnessed, the 158th.

I suggest your break, and we shall continue. It is nice to have such friendly guests. I do not grow weary of speaking to Joseph but it is good to have an audience, particularly when one is a Jesuit in spirit, although I believe he does not follow certain Jesuit rules.

A man who has an ulcer, Joseph, he thinks differently than a man who does not have an ulcer. Suggestions such as these will keep problems such as these in the background.

You have created the framework, and you can remove the framework, as he has created the framework within which an ulcer can have reality.

(Our cat, Willy, had been sitting at the foot of Jane’s chair. As if by signal Willy now got up and walked toward Peggy, who sat but a few feet away. He brushed against her leg and she involuntarily jumped. The timing was perfect. We all laughed.)

(It was 10:23. The material had been so interesting that I had forgotten the time. I had planned to hand Jane the test envelope at about 10:00. Her eyes had been open up to this point, but she now closed them and sat waiting quietly while I handed the envelope to Bill; he passed it to Jane. She held it lightly in both hands, her eyes still closed.)

The federal represented all I could get through to Ruburt, I am sorry to say, concerning the fact that the building was a large one. He had the idea from my information of a large federal building.

Ruburt is still rather nervous in our tests; even with his good friends present, oh he is so frightened! However we are making headway in this respect, and he will learn with experience.

He is hardheaded. In many ways this is to our benefit. In the overall we will want more specific information. It must come in a more clear manner, and so it shall.

Our cat lover is embarrassed when he looks at me.

([Peggy smiling:] “Why would you say that? You said “he” when you spoke to me.”)

Because—I say he advisedly, and we shall go into that at a later occasion—because he is not sure who he is looking at. A natural reaction.

(This little exchange was interesting to Jane and me. It will be remembered that Jane’s entity name is Ruburt, and that Seth refers to Ruburt as “he”; our interpretation of this being that Jane’s entity is male-oriented in the overall sense. Many sessions ago however Seth explained that this male or female orientation had little if anything to do with sex as we conceive it.

(Peggy’s entity name is Aniac, given by Seth in the 158th session. Seth has given little information on Peg’s entity, but his use of “he” evidently means that Peg’s entity, like Jane’s, is male-oriented.

He is so busy looking that he is hardly embarrassed.

Simple questions. It is because the man thinks differently that he has the ulcer, for the ulcer is the result of his characteristic method of thought. It is the result of his characteristic manner of viewing reality. This causes him to add to his self-image, in reality, that disability. The ulcer is formed intimately from the electrical reality that composes his thoughts. Do you find that a satisfactory answer?