“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

(I picked the symbol above because Seth had dealt with a version of this in the 68th, 75th, 83rd and 84th sessions, in connection with Bill Macdonnel’s trip to Provincetown, MA, last summer. Seth insisted that Bill had seen a symbol similar to this on a rowboat at Provincetown, although Bill did not recall it. Other data Seth gave us about Bill’s trip was verified. Note that I added my own initials to the symbol above. My idea was that using such a design as a test would summon up a little more emotional involvement, since Bill was included along with Seth, Jane and me.

(I was not sure whether the test would be telepathic or clairvoyant, or a combination. I felt it would now be different since Jane was probably alerted. She confirmed this just before the session when she asked me about it, so I gave her the envelope at 8:57. She agreed to some nervousness, though not a great deal. She also said she thought Seth might address the session to Dr. Instream, and that if he did she would prefer not to be distracted. Thus she might not deal with the envelope.

I would like to make a few points here in connection with the letter which you recently received from Dr. Instream.

First of all, I have no information of setting up any unreasonable nor impossible conditions. An atmosphere of trust, mutual trust, would however seem to be indispensable. Spontaneity must be allowed for.

Another meeting between Dr. Instream and myself would be advantageous, so that we could speak plainly. Perhaps such a meeting would facilitate mutual understanding, without which such a venture has little hope of success.

I did say quite plainly that I would cooperate in any such endeavor that is conducted with integrity, and so I shall. When I spoke of terms, saying that my terms should be met, I was not, again, speaking of any impossible conditions; merely that spontaneity, trust and integrity be necessary factors in our endeavor.

It is quite true however that proof is not necessary from my standpoint. It is quite necessary perhaps from your standpoint. This is quite understandable, and since I realize this I do not see how it becomes an issue. Particularly since I have more than once stressed that I would cooperate.

My emotional response however was quite legitimate. I would prefer that some informal meeting be held if possible between us, as a preliminary to our venture. I do not necessarily stand on ceremony, but I do feel that some friendly discussion would be seeming under the circumstances.

For one thing, I would like to know specifically what Dr. Instream has in mind, and prefer that we work it from that angle. This could be discussed between us.

Such a meeting would help to set Ruburt at ease.

I would consider it a gesture of courtesy if Dr. Instream acquainted himself with some of our material.

(We had no idea of how to interpret such an experiment, or even whether there is a one best way. Would “errors” of omission be counted? Seth did not mention a symbol at all, yet used the words handwritten and printed. To me printed means mechanically produced; to Jane printed means hand lettering, as were my initials beneath the symbol.

(Jane said that Seth himself was definite about another male being involved with the contents of the envelope. Her own thought, as she spoke, was that a female was involved; but Seth, she said, would not allow her to say a female was involved. Thus it seems that in giving the material on the envelope, Jane was drawing upon a couple of levels of awareness at once.

The combination of the traffic and the test, of which Ruburt was aware, served, though only slightly, to dismay him. However there are some points I would like to make.

A deeper trance state would allow us to get less distorted results on such a test as this, initially, but our results will improve. And such experiments will be helpful in that the various layers of the two personalities, Ruburt’s and my own, will be seen in their operating procedures.

(Here Seth refers to Bill and Peggy Gallagher, who have witnessed several sessions. Last week they agreed to participate in some tests. In the beginning the experiments would involve such simple procedures as having the Gallaghers, while at their home, focus upon objects Jane and I have not seen, at appointed hours during sessions held in our own home.)

This is not strictly necessary, but it would be advantageous. He reacts to the emotional atmosphere, and his abilities will operate best if he feels that he is investigating these matters along with interested parties, than if he feels that he is being skeptically observed.

All in all, we did not do badly, considering that Ruburt was forewarned that a test would in fact take place.

An emotional rapport of some sort, established between Ruburt and Dr. Instream, would definitely help us.

Such an informal meeting as I have suggested, perhaps on Ruburt’s home ground, again, would reinforce such rapport. And a frank as well as objective attitude on the part of Dr. Instream in his letters would also help.

(End at 10:33. Jane was dissociated as usual. Her eyes remained closed. She said she would prefer that tests be given often, so that she can become used to them; as she has become used to speaking while sitting down, and with her eyes open occasionally.)