“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

Again, the nature of space and time is glimpsed more clearly as it appears to the sleeping self, for in the dream state reality is to a large measure uncamouflaged, and the personality appears in a freer state. It should also be borne in mind that all aspects of the personality are part of the whole self. As such there is an overall communication between the various aspects of the self, although the separate aspects of the self may not be aware of the communications.

The inner ego directs all activities which are deeply subjective. The outer ego as you know deals with the manipulation of the self in the physical environment. You must remember that the whole self is more than the sum of its parts; and also, since it is action, it is never the same. It is therefore impossible at any moment to pinpoint the personality. Therefore the whole self is not only the sum of the personality as you know it in your time, it is also the sum of what it has been and what it shall be. For as I have explained action is simultaneous, and time as you think of it is caused by your own physical perception.

Therefore, in the dream state communication is possible between all portions of the self. The personality appears in its truest state if it seems, in dreams, that you are free of space and time. It is indeed because the basic self is free of space and time. If you appear to hear voices out of the past, if you seem to see into the future, it is because the dream state is a more or less faithful approximation of a basic reality in which your time and space simply do not exist.

We will be dealing rather extensively with a study of space and distance and time as they appear within the dream state, and with the freedoms that are possible for the personality within it. All of this information can be used most beneficially. It will enable the ego itself to expand its consciousness and its knowledge.

I will give you directions which will allow you to study the appearance of space and time within your dreams. You will be one self dreaming, while another spying self takes notes. I will now give you both a break from taking your notes, and we will then continue.

(Break at 9:58. Jane was dissociated as usual. Her voice had been on the deeper side, with the brogue apparent at times. Her eyes had remained closed. She had remained seated.

(We discussed with the Gallaghers the material given on dream therapy in sessions 172-74. Bill Gallagher also wondered about using suggestion even in working out problems connected with a hobby. His hobby is rope work, and at times the designs he uses are quite complicated.

This will give you the satisfaction of making the time twice as valuable. You can indeed suggest to the subconscious that it carry on in such a manner regardless of your conscious concern. As a result the ego can apply itself to the job at hand while the subconscious works for you and your inner purposes. This is very practical, and works without much difficulty.

As soon as your focus of awareness is switched the physical symptoms will vanish. It requires a knack, but it is simpler than it sounds, and you can master it. This only requires that you give suggestions to your subconscious. Tell it that it knows how to perform this manipulation, and suggest that it do so the next time you are in difficulty.

I here will suggest a brief break, and I will continue for a short time.

(Break at 10:23. Jane was dissociated as usual. She knew when her eyes opened, she said. As she looked around at us she felt that she saw us once removed, or as through a sheet of glass. To come out of the trance she blinked or squeezed her eyes shut several times. Her voice had maintained its deeper than usual note.

We will initiate a thorough study of the God concept, which will be begun the next time these friends are present, and will be continued when they visit us at other sessions. That is, whenever they attend a session for a while we will concern ourselves with the God concept and all of its implications.

(Jane began speaking again with her eyes closed, but they opened at times during the exchange, as they had in the last session, the 176th. Jane has resumed often lately after formally ending a session, as in the 169th, 170th, and 176th.

—Ruburt has always been a doubting Thomas. And now I meet a doubting Jesuit... I have known several doubting Jesuits, but it would take me several hours to tell you about them. I have the time however....

—I will now, since I too know your conception of the time, leave. As always, since you are my friends, I regret leaving. There is much you do not understand about relationships, which will explain these informal gatherings... I am not completed, or finished, or fulfilled anymore than you are.

(End at 11:14. Jane’s eyes had been closed and she ended upon a note of humor. Her manner had been pleasant and animated throughout. Her eyes had been open at times, and very dark. At times she had switched in and out of the trance state very rapidly—more rapidly than indicated here. It had been no trouble for her.

(This experience reminded me that Jane might try a little experiment of her own the next time such an occasion arose for informal exchange. It was simply that it should be possible for Jane herself to ask Seth questions, then go into trance to answer them. She agreed that it should work, especially if she was capable, as Seth, of carrying on a conversation with three other people, almost simultaneously.