“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

(Seth also said in the 168th session that we would make an appointment, as we obviously did to see Dr. Instream privately. Over coffee Monday, Dr. Instream asked if we had read F. W. H. Myers’ Human Personality. Seth had said we would be asked to read a book, but Dr. Instream did not insist that we read this work. We also bought two books by Dr. Instream at the college bookstore Monday noon.

We are working here indeed with human limitations. However, within the range of human limitations there is indeed much that can be done.

My field is indeed education, and my particular interest is that these abilities of human personality be understood and investigated. For these are not, dear Doctor, these are not sudden unnatural occurrences.

We are dealing with inherent abilities of human personality, whether or not the personality is focused within physical matter, but I am indeed aware of the difficulties which shall be encountered. I appreciate your interest and concern. I have some difficulties with Ruburt’s own rather stubborn attitude at times; but we must also take this into consideration, and so we shall.

I will not keep you. Like myself, you are a busy man. But I will see what can be done, and we shall work along those lines, taking into consideration the potential, and quite human, limitations.

([Dr. Instream:] “Yes... the trouble is our human limitations... our methodology is important to us here... if we are to get others to listen to us....”)

I will not endeavor to go into this in any detail at this time. We will work within these limitations and see what we can do. The human is not innately limited... the waking state, as I have said often, is as much a trance state as any other state. Here we merely switch the focus of attention to other channels. All that is required is that we switch the attention... consider merely that all types of awareness are trance states... consciousness is the direction in which the self looks.

([Dr. Instream:] “ We’ll get insight on this... I’m human, I need to learn... we need proof.”)

I am an excellent debater. I can hold my own in any conversation. Forgive my lack of humility. I can hold my own with your good doctor in New York, I can take him for you... I also know my own limitations, but I do respond to human relationships.

There is much here to be studied about personality. From your viewpoint the information available to you can be practically endless. There is much to be learned about perceiving other realities. Trance states are only a beginning. The self is made of action. Teaching the self to expand is most important, and the ways are not difficult... this is what makes the experiment interesting. This is not beyond human abilities. The structure of the personality makes this possible.

The peoples of the East know more about this, but they have closed their eyes to the human conditions of existence... they live in poverty and filth, and there is no real reason for this. Experiments in expansion can be carried on that I will be glad to discuss with you... they can be for the use of any intelligent personality.

Yes, but you have had to put up with very much. This is indeed unfortunate. Your own potentials should have been given much greater reign. The human personality continually both amazes me, amuses me, and completely appalls me. Charlatans are often more deeply rewarded... I ask you to forgive my extended monologue.