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TES4 Session 169 July 12, 1965 15/103 (15%) Instream Dr Rhine crack gullible
– The Early Sessions: Book 4 of The Seth Material
– © 2013 Laurel Davies-Butts
– Session 169 July 12, 1965 1:37 PM Monday Unscheduled

[... 14 paragraphs ...]

I will indeed see what experiments can be made, working within the limitations that are, unfortunately, what we now have to deal with. At a future regular session, I will endeavor in a more specific manner to discuss what can be done here, and what cannot be done. We can do much, much we cannot do. But since we do understand both the potentialities and the limitations, then we can indeed make the best of what we have.

[... 1 paragraph ...]

I will seriously endeavor to do what I can do, considering our circumstances. We need have no worries concerning the personality with whom I work, since there is by now some sort of a rapport that will work for us. My cooperation can be counted upon. It goes without saying that all of this cannot happen overnight, but we shall begin.

[... 1 paragraph ...]

For Ruburt’s and Joseph’s sakes, I stayed well within the bounds of propriety. I do not overtly speak out against men who have no imagination, and little concept of any reality but their own. But if we work together, I will reserve for myself the privilege of saying to them what I choose. Otherwise I shall work well within the bounds of propriety. But if they will deal with me, so shall I deal with them.

[... 15 paragraphs ...]

I will not endeavor to go into this in any detail at this time. We will work within these limitations and see what we can do. The human is not innately limited... the waking state, as I have said often, is as much a trance state as any other state. Here we merely switch the focus of attention to other channels. All that is required is that we switch the attention... consider merely that all types of awareness are trance states... consciousness is the direction in which the self looks.

[... 1 paragraph ...]

Irregardless of our particular interests, I look forward to long conversations with you on less formal topics... like yourself, I am independent. We have many fields of common interests... the personality should always be considered in an elemental way as patterns of action. It is never stable. When you attempt to tamper with various levels you change it. When you crack an egg to discover what is inside you ruin the egg. There are other ways to get inside the egg, and they are not too difficult to do... you have the sort of mind, Dr. Instream, that will be of great benefit to us here. We do not need a hammer to crack the eggshell. I am an egghead, but I do not need a hammer to be cracked.

[... 5 paragraphs ...]

([Dr. Instream:] “I’m in over my depth... need time to consider what we can do, what your ideas are.”)

[... 6 paragraphs ...]

(Jane came out of her trance at 2:35. Since we do not have a phone we gave Dr. Instream the number of our neighbor across the hall, Leonard Yaudes.

[... 3 paragraphs ...]

We will consider ways in which we can work within the physical circumstances. I want to also use the potentials in which I can work. I am somewhat sly... I am used to getting around corners. We will indeed try, within our scope of action, to do what we can. I am used to opening eggs without cracking them.

[... 2 paragraphs ...]

I am an excellent debater. I can hold my own in any conversation. Forgive my lack of humility. I can hold my own with your good doctor in New York, I can take him for you... I also know my own limitations, but I do respond to human relationships.

[... 7 paragraphs ...]

The increase in voice will not produce fatigue. It never does. Also, there is no invasion of Ruburt. The personality with whom I am working is intelligent. For reasons that I will explain much later, it was necessary that I align myself with a personality who is both intelligent and intuitional. I do not want to shove the ego aside. I have no need or wish to shove the existing personality aside. We get along well.

[... 3 paragraphs ...]

I deal with possibilities, and so do you.

[... 3 paragraphs ...]

I have no objection, except that we must not deal with the gullible or skeptical. The gullible can do us more harm than the skeptical.

[... 1 paragraph ...]

I quail before such a possibility. I can to some extent deal with the skeptic. With the gullible I cannot deal. We will indeed at all times try to be as reasonable as possible. I do become impatient. This is a characteristic of my own. I try not to let it direct my relationships.

[... 4 paragraphs ...]

(Dr. Instream said that he had been thinking of the possible damage that publicity could do to the sessions.)

[... 11 paragraphs ...]

(Dr. Instream said that people often do get hurt, when instead they should be protected. He knows Dr. Rhine and another director personally, and voiced suspicions about their methods.)

[... 10 paragraphs ...]

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