“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

(Peg and Bill Gallagher visited us sometime before 9 PM this evening. Peg is a reporter for the Elmira Star-Gazette, and will do the news story about the sale of Jane’s ESP book. After the conversation had turned to matters psychic, Jane played the tape recording of the Father Trainor episode of last February 11. In Volume 3 see the 131st and 132nd sessions, and the notes on pages 261-63.

We will not indeed at this time go into all the circumstances involved in the illness about which we have been questioned at this time. Nevertheless, we do here find a personality who has been, in this life, from an early age, involved in a most complicated network of emotional involvement, concerning both mother and father—and do I speak too quickly for you, Joseph?

Nevertheless these relationships have a cause, basically, in past relationships having to do with other lives in the seventeenth, eighteenth, and fourteenth centuries, when this family was unfortunately involved in other relationships which are even now only working themselves out.

There is much that the personality can do to help his own situation, as indeed we shall see; we also find an involvement here between both families of the man and the woman in past existences, and for this reason a very close psychic framework has been built up here.

Without carrying us into a long and lengthy session, it would be impossible for me to go into the complicated relationships involved in the psychic history of the personality whom I will here call Manuk, which is the male as he now sits before me. The solution of the problem is in his hands, and recognition on the part of the ego, which has not assimilated past knowledge, will do much to settle his condition.

I will say this much. There was, I believe, an afternoon in 1940 or 1942, either in a barracks or in a solitary room, which in this life, had something to do with stirring up the present condition. That is, in making it possible for the condition to later show itself.

There was indeed, also, an incident that occurred when the woman was six years old, having to do with the resulting fear of a feline family.

It had to do with a circumstance. A school was involved, and I believe classmates. The woman’s ego will not recall the event at this time, though later it may. Classmates were involved, and a spitting cat that belonged in a house nearby the school.

An aside here: the incident involving the woman had mainly to do—I suggest here, my esteemed Joseph, that perhaps you watch Ruburt’s features. And I would also like to mention the fact that indeed the woman in our gathering, Aniac, does indeed have abilities that are not being used, and possibilities for energy focus which she would do well to explore.

Do I speak too fast, Joseph?

It is true, generally speaking, generally speaking, that those personalities who fear their dependent leanings may develop ulcers. Dependent feelings are quite universal, however, and it is obvious that all human beings do not have ulcers. As far as the particular case is concerned, you will feel well for the rest of the evening.

If you do not know when you hear them facts that are facts, then it is certainly not because I have not told you.

Not only that, it is simply a fact that your scientists will indeed discover, and no misty, magical superstition, that consciousness, of itself and because of its nature, forms physical matter. Because I once inhabited physical matter, as you all do now, does not mean that I am now some esoteric, occult creature of dim spiritualistic rather doubtful origins, who manages to invade gullible and neurotic consciousness.

—of a gullible, pseudomystical type of temperament. Nevertheless I cannot help but grow annoyed when I am literally besieged with the protests meant to insist upon his sanity, the point being that if he is sane, then I must be some nefarious seven-eyed monster. He does indeed give acquiescence for these sessions, and I am indeed fond of you both. I have been aware that you do not care, particularly, for the opinion of your fellow men. But our Ruburt, who has never cared for the opinion of his fellow men, now rises up in great worry. What is he afraid of?

Nor do I here mean to depreciate Ruburt either, for I also am only too aware of those psychological tests which shall be put to us; and it should be obvious to you that in this respect your precious privacy is indeed invaded, and will be. None of you shall regret this night.

Such a life reading would involve incidents from both past and present lives, including circumstances which, taken all in all, tended to bring about the illness. Such a malfunction is very seldom the result of circumstances that relate to one existence only, but you see they do involve—are you ready?

(We have always thought of the 33rd session as furnishing the most dramatic display of voice changes on Jane’s part, both in volume and a lower register. I would say that tonight’s session saw Jane surpass those voice effects as far as sheer power and staying ability went by some little margin; but I do not think her voice dropped as low. Nevertheless it was very vibrant and strong, and Jane now told us she felt no aftereffects, her cold notwithstanding. She said that before the Father Trainor demonstration she had been concerned about her voice being able to give a session tomorrow night, Monday, let alone tonight.

Indeed I do occasionally, as you saw this evening, badger him, but for his own good; and we are closer this evening than we have been for some time. Closer, in fact, than we have ever been, and I am permitted here with Ruburt’s eyes quite open, to sit with you and chat.

The physical changes in his features were fairly obvious, and I am indeed sorry that you did not perceive their nature. I do not know if you can perceive the difference in the emotional proximity this evening between us now. And if I do badger Ruburt as I did this evening, it is because I too have an emotional reaction in all of this.

There is what amounts at times to a wall that separates us, as far as emotion is concerned, and this is our Ruburt’s doing, though of course he does not do it deliberately. Again, the strength and indeed the stubbornness of his ego, made the sessions possible, for without it in the beginning there would have been difficulty in maintaining necessary stability.

I do not as a rule advocate stretching our schedule in any degree. However this evening, when we find Ruburt’s abilities at a high level, it behooves us to take advantage of them.

Since we are involving you in such additional work, I will leave it to you to tell me when you are tired. Do you want to take a break?

—but in gratitude for your fortitude. However, taking into consideration your willingness, I do suggest a break.

This has nothing to do with Ruburt’s distasteful habit of smoking cigarettes—

(“You’re doing pretty well right now.”

(The strange thing here was that by now even I realized that Seth could do just what he said he could, that he still had not hit the top of his, or Jane’s, ability to produce a really stunning effect. I have no real way of measuring the magnitude of what I was hearing, beyond stating that it enveloped me completely. I not only felt that everyone in the apartment house could hear the voice, but that it was audible on the street. I am still surprised that no one banged on our door and asked for quiet.

Do you require a trifle more? I am quite prepared to deliver. It is because Ruburt’s own voice is so unmelodious with his cold that any effects of that nature—

I would suggest because of the lateness of the hour, however, that you do not this evening request such signs.

(Since Seth was obviously having such a good time needling me, I very nearly yielded to temptation and told him to pull out all the stops as far as voice effects went. I was curious to see what he could really do, through Jane. But I didn’t have the nerve, considering the hour and other people.)

Ruburt presently feels no discomfort. He may be slightly tired tomorrow, but that is all. The emotional rapport built up between us will reinforce our sessions in general, and you know how important this can be. I must still work within the realm of his energies, and I do not even now believe that you realize how much more effectively he is using those energies, nor what strains our sessions have put upon his ego, which he has managed to triumph over.

You do well, Joseph, to watch out for Ruburt as you do. He does however allow himself freedoms, as this evening, and on other occasions which are most beneficial.

(And I thought that if Seth really showed what he could do, cars would probably stop in the street outside; seriously.)

With Ruburt’s consent however, and I have it, I could make such a blast of masculine voice that you would indeed be embarrassed when the neighbors complained (louder). It is to show my humorous consideration for your feelings that I do not so indulge (louder).

You blackmail me with your human limitations. Why do you not utilize your recorder to a greater degree, particularly for such unscheduled sessions?

(I thought of recording this evening’s session earlier, as stated, but did not do so in the interests of spontaneity, a quality to which Seth attaches great value. To be ready to record an unscheduled session we would have to have the recorder set up and ready to go at a flick of a switch, constantly. To date our unscheduled sessions haven’t been that frequent by far, and there are actually few unusual effects to be noted.)