“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

I would like this evening to speak more concerning the interrelationship of various units; for when I speak of the interrelationship of universes, remember that these universes are also units, or if you prefer, systems.

They are merely of a more complex gestalt, yet they share in the properties inherent in all units or systems, regardless of apparent size or complexity. Once again, there are no closed systems or units, although some may appear closed to those inhabitants within.

There is an interrelationship between all systems or units that are. This interrelationship is independent of time, as you conceive time to be. The interrelationship between units or systems is, therefore, between not only those that now appear actual to you, but between all systems or units that you assume to be future or past, with those that appear to be present.

This interrelationship is not in terms of cause and effect, as this law is a distortive misinterpretation of actuality. The interrelationship between all units or systems has nothing to do with continuity in your terms. The systems or units are basically simultaneous actions. As participants within one system of action, you are to a large extent limited by the very participation that gives you reality within the action system.

Man is himself a particular system or unit of action within other systems of action, and he is himself composed of other units of action. This unity and interdependence is in itself responsible for that interplay of mental and psychic action which results in the individual consciousness, that is, with the ego.

I have told you that for various reasons all inner energy cannot be objectified within any given action. That part of the entity which does not find expression within a given system seeks it elsewhere. There is, nevertheless, a portion of individual psychic energy that resides, you may say within or behind, every physical manifestation; and this constantly seeks inventiveness in whatever direction is open to it.

So do portions of each entity find simultaneous expression within various systems or units of action, and they must then progress within these systems according to the specific properties of the systems. Units or systems then are open, interdependent and simultaneous in actuality.

They are formed as I told you earlier. Individualized, aware energy is the basis for their camouflage frameworks. I have said that they are not continuous, meaning that they are not strung out in your time, one before or after the other. Because they are units or systems, they do possess at their outer limits a resistance which serves to give them unitary identity, a resistance which tends to attract like and repel unlike elements.

Yet also at this point of resistance will be found, in the case of your system, particles that are part of your system and also part of another system. In other words, where two systems merge the outer resistant edges of each are the same.

He would be composed of the stock of each country, so that neither country could decipher any alienness within him. This is a rather important point, for it concerns all units or systems. The inner alignment and electromagnetic structure of such particles is the main issue that allows them to be, or to operate within, two different units or systems. And while these particles act as resistant boundary forces, they are also uniting forces, forming so to speak the connective tissue that both separates and unites.

These identifying particles, as we will call them, that both close about a system yet still unite it to other systems, these particles are also inherent properties of any unit or system. Availability of energy and energy transformation into the particular camouflage necessities of the system are other properties.

No system is able to utilize all of its energy however, and a residue of energy is another characteristic of a system or unit. Camouflage initiative is another such characteristic. Within the limitations set by itself, a system may nevertheless, from the opportunities available to it, vary its camouflage patterns.

A system may say that within its limitations there is room for still further transformation of energy into still more various camouflage forms. It may be generally said, but only generally, that the most advantageous system is that system which has great diversity of camouflage patterns, in that energy, always individualized, is then given expression within the system in different materializations, which then allow for further individualization to the benefit of the whole system.

The system exists basically, again, not in space, nor does it expand in space as you conceive it. It exists and expands in terms of depths that take up no space, in terms of value fulfillment.

We have discussed this before but it should not be forgotten in any of the discussions. The urge and drive toward value fulfillment provides the spark for the initiation of any system or unit. Increased consciousness and awareness of itself, through the manipulation and materialization of its own energy into more complicated camouflage patterns, is another characteristic of a system or unit.

The particles of which we spoke may be regarded as not only boundaries but as gateways, both separating and dividing systems.

To you they would be seen as mysterious connectors or links. Energy passes through these particles from one system to another, more or less constantly; yet they themselves, taking energy from system A, transform it into an adaptation that can be received by system B.

These particles are, then, transformers of a kind; receiving energy from system B, they transform it before passing it through. These particles contain both positive and negative ions within their own unitary system, for they are of course also units in themselves.

They are smaller than small, to be sure, but soon your scientific instruments will detect them; though I do not believe their significance will be understood. But many such units cannot by any stretch of the imagination be considered as particles in these terms; and while certain of their effects are detectable both chemically and electrically within your system, they cannot be examined directly with instruments.

The dream universe and your own are both actualities, and both separate systems that are interconnected.

This interconnection means that the reality and actuality of each system is made possible by the existence of the other. Yet both are separate. This brings us to several points that I will leave for our next session.

It goes without saying however that the characteristics of any system or unit that I have given here must apply to the dream universe, and to your own universe. These characteristics vary only in terms of intensity from system to system.

And now I will close our session, hoping that you will apply tonight’s material to others, that is other sessions, as it adds to the total picture that I began to paint for you when I spoke of the so-called initial appearance of matter within your system.