“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

Data from one such universe can and does serve as a reference point in another. In such a circumstance, the data is of course interpreted according to the universe in which it appears. An action may occur therefore in the world of matter, and be perceived in both the universe of negative matter and the dream world, but in such a case each universe interprets the action according to, and within, its own framework of reference.

These acts are not only interpreted differently, they also of course have effects which are caused not only by the initial action but also by the distortive appearance of the action in a given system. The reaction to such a mental act is made not only to the act itself; but the reaction is made to the appearance of an initial act, as it is projected into the second system.

There may be the appearance of a time lapse of one kind or another between mental actions and their appearance or projection into other systems, but this is a distortive effect. Such distortive effects, such distortions, are often correlated within a given system, and accepted as a foundation for the nature of reality. And all further data is then accepted according to the easiness with which it can be accepted within this framework, the distortions being mistaken for the actuality behind them.

We will have many sessions yet dealing with the dream universe. Beside the interpretation of dreams specifically, in which I realize you are most interested, beside the explanation of dreams as they apply to your manipulation in the world of matter, we will discuss dream symbols as they apply not to the world of matter but to the dream universe itself.

(Her delivery had been rather fast, but it slowed down when she resumed at 9:38)

I have said and I will repeat: In fact, there are no closed systems. They may appear closed to those within, but they are not closed, and there are openings in what appear closed places. We will deal directly in our future dream material with specific mental actions, and with the different appearance of the actions in the dream and matter universes.

We are well acquainted. Our educational methods vary. That is all. Perhaps for your amazement or amusement we may come together some evening, although not during a regular session. And this is not anything but a probability.

(End at 10:17. Jane was dissociated as usual. As she sat down she said, “He may have said good night, but he isn’t gone yet. ‘Night, Seth.” We sat quietly for a minute or two in case Jane resumed dictation. Then she announced that Seth was gone.

(For December 1 and 2 I tried psychological time also, but have nothing to report beyond a few minor sensations in the hands.)