“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

I would like to speak concerning the parallel development of the universe of matter as you know it, the universe of negative matter, and what is truly the universe of dreams.

Every man dreams. I have told you that as the dream is only connected by the smallest thread to your time, so also, although it is difficult, you could manage to pinpoint the apparent beginning of a dream in clock time. This time, you know intuitively, has no psychological inner relationship to the dream experience.

It is true that physical stimuli may signal a dream, but the stimuli, the physical stimuli, does not actually signal the beginning of the dream; but it calls your attention to the dream, which has been in progress, as if you walked into a darkened theatre and began to see portions of a production which had been going on.

You would know better than to think that your awareness of the movie signified that the movie began only when you appeared. You construct dreams automatically, so to speak, with one level of your being in the main, whether you wake or sleep, and whether you are aware of the dreams or not. This is an inner symbol manipulation that is carried out as automatically as you breathe or walk, a by-product of your own physical and psychic structure, of your chemical and electromagnetic constitution.

As the dream does not begin then at any particular moment, neither did your physical universe begin at any given moment, and neither did the inwardness become born in terms of cause and effect.

I am again, not here praising the intuitions above the intellect. They are both intended for different purposes. They tune in on different realities, and all realities are actual. Nevertheless our last session, with its simplified explanation of development in terms that you can understand, should lead you to realize that because of the parallel development of the dream universe with the physical universe, the study of the dream universe will help you comprehend the basic inwardness behind the physical world that you inhabit.

Both the dream universe and the universe of negative matter then, are by-products of the physical universe, in that they were formed as inward energy attempted to form itself in a physical way.

The physical materialization was so constructed that it resulted in further regeneration of inward energy itself. I would like to repeat that dreams occur constantly, whether you wake or sleep; and this has always been the case. The dream universe has also affected your own physical universe, as the physical universe has strongly affected it.

Concepts, ideas, realized in dreams, have then been constructed physically. Physical constructions and inventions, purely in terms of a new intellectual comprehension of physical matter, have also transformed the nature of the dream universe, and enriched it, adding to the symbolistic freedoms possible there.

Earlier I mentioned fire, which was intellectually grasped by man and therefore materialized in the world of matter. Previously the dream world symbolically used fire only in terms of its power to transform matter. Man was not able to see fire earlier in terms of beneficial warmth or comfort. He could not for example in his dream universe then manipulate fire, except in terms of what he considered destruction.

With his intellectual appreciation of the benefits of fire that followed his physical mastery of it, then his dream universe became enriched with a new freedom. This is but one simple example. While development of the two universes overall is parallel, no exact evenness in all respects is achieved. That is, a concept may be brilliantly alive in the dream universe but unexpressed physically, or for one reason or another an intellectual comprehension in the physical universe may not find expression in the dream universe. But overall there is parallel development.

There are breakthroughs in the dream universe from the physical universe, as well as from the dream universe into your own. The dream universe, for the purposes of our explanation, is a specific one. For you I must speak in terms of directions, since there is difficulty due to your insistence on placements in space.

So for simplicity’s sake I will have you imagine that the dream universe occupies a position on the other side of the physical universe, with the entity separated from the dream universe by the physical. Do you see?

Imagine the analogy psychologically again, using the physical universe as the ego, with the dream universe in one direction and the entity on the other.

It goes without saying, or should, that the inner self sends its projections of inner senses through both the physical universe and the dream universe; yet all this talk of space and placement is a mere convenience. Yet, in terms of physical construction this is what you would find, and this, if it were understood, is what is seen in the actual construction of the most minute physical particle under observation in your laboratories.

But the significance is not seen. No energy is not used. Entropy does not exist. It is the appearance only of an effect within the physical perspectives; that seemingly unusable energy helps form your dream universe. That energy from which you seem to get no work physically, that energy which seems to diminish in value, is plowed backward into inwardness, regenerated and used to form universes without which you could not exist even as physical beings.

For without the dream universe you could not exist physically. I am going to quickly embark into the universe of negative matter, but briefly, only to show you the interwoven quality of existence; and how we will follow it in discussion.

A closed system could become captured, so to speak, and be used as a building block, still retaining its individuality, by other systems still expanding. In this manner your physical universe, dream universe, and universe of negative matter have come together, while retaining their boundaries as a more or less closed system.

You will have to understand that I speak for simplicity’s sake, since no system is completely closed. Now. We have not said nearly enough about the dream universe, to really launch a discussion concerning its by-product. Nevertheless I shall tell you that its by-product is the world of negative matter.

Energy seemingly lost or dissipated or unusable in the physical universe does indeed leave it; but it transfers itself, seeps into the dream universe, and there it helps to insure the existence of the physical universe itself, since the existence of each of these fields or universes is dependent upon the existence of the others, in most actual ways.

The energy is then transformed in the dream universe, and again regenerated and used in the formation of the universe of negative matter, into which it seeps from the dream universe. Our discussions will have to thoroughly discuss the nature of the dream universe before we can hope to consider the universe of negative matter, but it will not hurt if you keep the above mentioned facts in mind.