“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

(Jane did some work on one of her paintings last night. She later told me that while working on it she felt quite uneasy. The feeling lasted for some time. No definite thoughts came to her about the sense of unease, and she had difficulty putting it into words.

(She began dictation on time and in a normal tone of voice. Again her glasses were off, her eyes dark, her pacing rather slow. She spoke with some pauses, and continued to use them. However as the session progressed her tone and manner became rather more determined, and even a trifle grim.)

It is basically as meaningless in essence, to ask this kind of question as it would be to pause in the middle of a dream, and wonder when first the dream location was created: To stand facing a dream landscape and wonder at what point in time the rocks had their origin. For there is a great similarity between the so-called world of dreams and the so-called world of matter, as you should know.

The material of the physical universe is created spontaneously and constantly, even as the dream locations in the dream world are so created; and as it is impossible in terms of time as you know it to set a point of beginning in the dream world, so it is impossible to attempt to do the same as far as the physical universe is concerned.

In time as you know it, there simply is no point of first origin, since in the spacious present the past does not exist, as the future does not exist in those terms. The dream world is more closely connected with uncamouflaged experience in the spacious present, but it still is in a camouflage perspective, dealing with recognizable projections of material reality.

(Break at 9:30. Jane was dissociated, she said, but not to her usual degree. When she began dictating again she maintained her deliberate and rather determined manner; at the same time she spoke a little faster. Resume at 9:35.)

The barrier, if it may be so called, is not so much in the nature of the two dimensions themselves, but in your own limitations, since presently you are focused mainly in one of these. Until a certain area of psychic development is attained, awareness, or rather direct awareness, is only possible in one dimension at a time, though experience in other dimensions in varying degrees may be received separately.

(Break at 9:43. Jane was this time more fully dissociated, she said. She felt “funny” when I started to cough, since even though she stopped dictation she still felt suspended between the trance state and the regular state of being. She said she couldn’t pull out of the trance easily until she said we should take a break. She wasn’t able, for instance, to quickly run over to try to help me. As far as I can recall this is the first time an interruption of this kind has occurred during her dictation.

(Break at 10:15. Jane was fully dissociated this time. My writing hand was also tiring, since her rate of dictation had continued to be fast.

(Jane resumed in a slightly slower fashion, with more pauses. She laughed as she began, and this accompanied her remarks concerning her practice of psychological time. Resume at 10:19.)

I still do suggest the fifteen minute limit that he has adopted for psychological time, until the end of the week. And then we shall see.