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TES2 Session 85 September 7, 1964 20/65 (31%) Watts Borst Frank gallery directorship
– The Early Sessions: Book 2 of The Seth Material
– © 2012 Laurel Davies-Butts
– Session 85 September 7, 1964 9 PM Monday as Scheduled

[... 9 paragraphs ...]

I am pleased to see this. I am also pleased to see the mark of personal confidence, as far as Ruburt is concerned, and your joint decision that he leave the gallery. I am fully aware, perhaps indeed surely more aware than either of you, of the dangers of distortion in this material.

[... 1 paragraph ...]

As far as Ruburt’s personal subconscious mind is concerned, neither of you have to fear any material in it that might be, or present, dangerous, misguided, egocentric to the extreme, or darkly-inhibited phenomena.

His personal subconscious, to my relief and I hope to yours, takes care of itself quite adequately through the sublimating fabrications of fantasy into creative prose and poetry, in which I am in no way involved. I make no attempt, for example, to inspire Ruburt in his own creative work. However if he did not have such an outlet, and if you did not have such an outlet in your own work, then indeed we would have had much more trouble, because this layer of personal subconscious would then be not merely a receptive channel but one that also radioed its own noisy and demanding stations.

[... 1 paragraph ...]

I realize and understand that both of you rather suspect personal material when I give it. Even Ruburt believes it most possible that such material is somehow the result of his own personal subconscious conniving. Such is not the case.

[... 2 paragraphs ...]

I am thinking of the long terms, and many subjects shall be covered throughout the years, with your cooperation. Now Ruburt, again, suspects strongly that my remark concerning my hope that this material be read throughout the world is the result of some inhibited egomania on his part. This is the result of your joint interpretation. I realize that the material is no new bible, believe me. It does, however, represent facts that are not generally known, and that should be communicated, regardless of their source. I see nothing grossly egocentric in this remark, and if you do not consider the material valid, then why spend so much time with it?

[... 9 paragraphs ...]

Nevertheless, much of the Watts material was valid. The distortions, too numerous to mention here, were the result of inexperience, not only on Ruburt’s part, but also on the part of the personality who did live and was called Frank Watts.

He was a personality from my entity, entirely independent from me and from my control, as I have explained that such personalities are. Ruburt’s abilities were only beginning to show themselves, and had what we may refer to as a low-range frequency. There was an affinity to begin with, but Ruburt simply could not reach far enough, or within and through the inner senses enough, to contact me directly; and there are what you may call for simplicity’s sake, conventions of conduct which I would not break.

Had I attempted myself to contact Ruburt then, the contact would have amounted to a sort of psychic invasion, which I would find most unethical on my part.

Frank Watts was closer, and acted as an unconscious relay station on the one hand, while on the other hand his unconscious gave consent. The material which came through was extremely garbled, some distortions resulting from Ruburt’s inexperience, and some simply in translation.

[... 1 paragraph ...]

The material partially was picked up or initiated by Ruburt on a subconscious level from Mrs. Borst, who was I believe at the gallery during that time. There was a Frank Watts. Mrs. Borst did know of him, and he did exist as an independent personality.

[... 1 paragraph ...]

Because of Ruburt’s reaction I will not this evening. On another occasion I will slyly insert them in the middle of the material. They, or rather the Frank Watts material, must however be considered then separate from my material. My material is the material in which I use my name.

[... 5 paragraphs ...]

–that I knew what I was doing when I abruptly and rather strongly, I admit, suggested that Ruburt leave the gallery, two full days before he was given his precious assistant directorship.

You both suspected all sorts of tricky subconscious motives on Ruburt’s part. The fact is, had he followed my suggestion then, affairs for him would have been much simpler. As it is, on his own with your help, because of quite practical events, he has chosen to leave, after having accepted the assistant directorship. Had he taken my suggestion when I gave it, affairs would have gone smoother. As it is there will be misunderstandings that could have been avoided.

[... 1 paragraph ...]

Such an unscheduled session with urgent overtones should at least be studied thoroughly. I am not really suggesting that you act on blind faith, but such a session is a symptom of something in the wind that should be watched, even if Ruburt blocks the full details.

[... 5 paragraphs ...]

However, I will add one other note. Ruburt also had a dream which gave him clear warning of trouble, the dream in which he was at the home of the art gallery president. He, Ruburt, opened a strange door to find a threatening male figure therein.

He tried to scream, could not for a frozen moment, then he screamed and ran. The door represented what seemed to be a new opportunity. The figure inside represented the actuality; that is, what seemed to be an opportunity would instead end up as a dead end, a threatening and stagnant position. The male figure represented the director, who offered the new position. The interval during which Ruburt could not scream represented the frozen interval of indecision, in which he could not act.

[... 4 paragraphs ...]

I was not pressing the point, as I was with the gallery suggestion. Ruburt will improve, and is improving, as far as distortions are concerned; because, again, we are not using a deep trance state, because we are working in cooperation. The process may take longer but it is much more advantageous in the long run, and you forget that this is only the very beginning.

Ruburt and you are both in training, so to speak. You cannot start in at the top, and I am myself cautious. I do not want to

[... 2 paragraphs ...]

Do not be overly concerned at any time if I suggest something that you do not think practical, but do look into such matters thoroughly. If Ruburt is blocking there should be a definite validity in any case.

If you should not feel like acting immediately, neither should you take it for granted that there is not a definite need to act. It is because we are only beginning, and because Ruburt often blocks me, that my suggestions may seem so impractical. It is the concrete material he fears.

[... 3 paragraphs ...]

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