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TES2 Session 83 August 31, 1964 10/76 (13%) libido Freud Jung cooperation advocating
– The Early Sessions: Book 2 of The Seth Material
– © 2012 Laurel Davies-Butts
– Session 83 August 31, 1964 9 PM Monday as Scheduled

[... 11 paragraphs ...]

Your Freud and Jung have probed into the outer, personal subconscious. Jung saw glimpses of other depths, but that is all. There are rather unfortunate distortions occurring in Jung’s writings, as well as in Freud’s, since they did not understand the primary, cooperative nature of the libido. We will involve ourselves in a much more thorough study along these lines, as we come to another body of subject material.

[... 1 paragraph ...]

This cooperative nature of the libido has been completely overlooked and misinterpreted for various reasons, many simply due to ignorance. You know that the individual cells of any form cooperate to form another, more complicated gestalt; and without the cooperation not only would the more complicated structure cease to operate, but the individual cells would also cease to operate.

[... 2 paragraphs ...]

The cooperation can be joyous, given freely on subconscious and conscious levels, or it can be given in a grudging manner, but it will be given.

[... 2 paragraphs ...]

Ruburt blocked some of the material, but did let a significant portion through. The four men and the room overlooking the water that I mentioned, did refer to the men and the room Mark told you of. I did, however, see outside that night also a boat with a symbol on its bow, and this boat I had mentioned earlier. The boat was tied to a pier, and was the first in line as you looked out from the room.

[... 28 paragraphs ...]

With these precepts no one can find fault. It is true that the outward manifestations of the libido are directed toward the physical world, but until the source of the libido is seen and studied and known to exist, not in the topmost subconscious layers of the individual, and not even in the racial subconscious, but within the entity itself, then man will not know himself.

Jung feared, basically, such a journey because he felt that it led only to the racial source. He feared that anyone involved in such a study would end up in the bottleneck of a first womb; but there, there is an opening-up into other realms, through which the libido also passed. Figuratively speaking, it squeezed itself through the bottleneck, and there is a lack of limitation on the other side.

Freud courageously probed into the individual topmost layers of the subconscious, and found them deeper than even he suspected. These levels are indeed filled with what may be termed life-giving and death-tempting differentiated and undifferentiated impulses acquired in the present life of an individual. But when these have been passed there are many discoveries still to be made.

When these have been passed then the diligent, consistent, intuitive and flexible seeker after knowledge will find horizons of which Freud never dreamed. Freud merely touched the outer boundaries. Jung, with his eyes clouded by the turmoil set up by Freud, glimpsed some further regions, but poorly.

[... 17 paragraphs ...]

Here the pressure is explosive, but this applies to neither of your cases. Therefore, we have no invasion of Ruburt’s personality on my part, as I have said. It will be shown that personalities continue to exist after physical death, and then it will not seem so strange that those such as myself can communicate.

I am not some creepy spirit, to wiggle my ears at the first suggestion for applause, for parties or for your pleasure. Not that you have asked me to do so, but for the record. I am not a spirit in those sentimental terms spoken by some well-meaning but poorly balanced mentalities.

[... 4 paragraphs ...]

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