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There are many things of which I would like to speak. I have more to discuss on the nature of matter, and some remarks, at least, pertaining to the house; and Ruburt’s position at the gallery, if he decides to let me through.

I have said that if five people seemed to view this glass, then what you would have in actuality would be five individual physical glasses. As you and Ruburt and Mark view this glass, each of you see a different glass.

However there is a point, an infinitesimal point, where Mark’s perspective, and yours, and Ruburt’s, overlap. Again, theoretically, if you could perceive that point, you could actually each see the other two physical glasses.

You and Ruburt perceive Mark, and yet neither of you sees Mark’s Mark. As he sits in his chair, constantly he creates his own image physically, using his own psychic energy, and using particular atoms and molecules for the construction of his body.

First of all, I would like you to notice that Ruburt’s voice is somewhat lower; and then with your permission I will continue.

There is the Mark which Mark has created, an actual physical construction. There is another Mark does not see, and this Mark is an actual physical construction created by you. There are at this time still two more physical Marks, one created by Ruburt, and one created by your cat.

In this room, so to speak, there are four physical Ruburts, there are four physical Josephs, and there are four physical cats. There are indeed four rooms.

The motion and the speed varies from regular constructions. I am in this particular instance speaking through Ruburt while I have also stood by in a construction and watched him speak. At a later date I may be able, briefly, to speak from my own construction. But this will take training and I will need the use of much cooperation.

I also intend to speak briefly on Ruburt’s Tom Roberts.

There is no good reason why you could not see me also, Joseph, nor is there any reason why Ruburt could not see me. You are both quite fussy about what you will see and what you will not see. This we will go into later in some detail.

I would also suggest before the session ends that you ask Mark once more what he saw, for the record, as well as including the excellent representation of me in the record. I also suggest that you notice the change once again in Ruburt’s voice; and if I perhaps sound severe, it is only the result of the transition. I can do best along this line in the presence of particular individuals who cooperate with me in the effort.

If you will bear with me I will continue briefly without stopping for your break this moment, since Ruburt is also cooperating with me so well. It would be best if we did not pause for a regular time.

For your information, you and Ruburt both opened the door.

All of your friends sensed that this house was good for you both. I am no banker. Nevertheless, I can tell you that you will have no financial difficulties; nor should Ruburt feel any fear concerning his own job at the gallery, in terms of the house and finances.

You were in front of the house. There is a short bit here. I will say it while Ruburt is not blocking me. You have both built up psychic reserves which you have not even glimpsed. The change in inner attitude, on your part particularly, toward the outside world, has in turn created a different sort of outside world, and a more beneficial one than you knew earlier.

You have nothing to fear financially as far as Ruburt’s position at the gallery; his outside condition in the world will improve; again, because of inner expectation. Whether this improvement takes place in connection with the gallery, or whether it takes place in another working area makes no difference, and need not worry nor concern you.

There will be no long period when he is not employed. I have been doing so well this evening; and I suggest that you notice that Ruburt’s voice is neither dry nor hoarse.

I only want to add a few simple explanations here. There definitely was a change in Ruburt’s features. I will go into the reasons behind this in another session.

The demonstration was indeed a valid one. I will not keep you longer. I did want to set the record straight, concerning the definite change in Ruburt’s features; and as you may have supposed, I was indeed listening in at your little discussion. Such tests as you have in mind during Mark’s journey should prove most advantageous, if carried through in the correct manner and under good circumstances.

I leave ordinarily close to ten past eleven, often when I could stay longer; but Ruburt has decided upon the hour and he—

I do see in that large white room some occurrences on our party night, and I shall have quite a time watching your expressions. I might even greet you at what Ruburt calls your large French doors. That is an excellent idea.

One note: I am having a marvelous time with Ruburt right now, keeping him from his cigarettes.

And the recorder should be on. I will tell you when. And now, I will leave, out of compassion for two tired, misused, persecuted gentlemen. Ruburt I am not concerned with in that fashion, since he and I have managed quite well this evening. Cheerio.