“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

However there is a point, an infinitesimal point, where Mark’s perspective, and yours, and Ruburt’s, overlap. Again, theoretically, if you could perceive that point, you could actually each see the other two physical glasses.

There is the Mark which Mark has created, an actual physical construction. There is another Mark does not see, and this Mark is an actual physical construction created by you. There are at this time still two more physical Marks, one created by Ruburt, and one created by your cat.

(At our request Jane remained standing where she was; she said that she “tingled” as she stood in the proper spot. She was not frightened, although uneasy when Bill and I first told her of what we saw. There was no doubt of what we did see. The effect lasted for perhaps a minute or two, the room was sufficiently well lighted [although not blazing with light; during her deliveries Jane usually has one 60W light on, but at break we turn more lights on; and if this bothers Jane while talking she automatically snaps them off as she paces about.] and Bill and I had plenty of chance to make sure of what we were looking at.

(I will have photocopies of the two drawings made for insertion into the carbon copies of this record. My personal feeling is that Seth’s enormous cranium in the drawings is a symbolic one—perhaps one pertaining to Bill’s feeling that Seth possesses greater or different knowledge than we do.

(“You two are old friends.”)

And the recorder should be on. I will tell you when. And now, I will leave, out of compassion for two tired, misused, persecuted gentlemen. Ruburt I am not concerned with in that fashion, since he and I have managed quite well this evening. Cheerio.

(This reproduction, combining the two drawings Bill MacDonnel made of the apparition he saw in the 68th Session, was published in 1970 by Prentice-Hall, Inc., in Jane’s The Seth Material. Bill’s first drawing is the smaller of the two.)