“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

The nature of matter is an extremely difficult sore point in your scientific circles. Incidentally, for the benefit of the record: As yet Ruburt has read no books or information concerning the subject. This does not mean that he will not, or should not. To the contrary, since we have a gestalt here his conscious as well as subconscious grasp of information is important. We will take many leaps from it, and his familiarity with many subjects will actually help to make communication from me more automatic.

Intellectually for example, he will not be tempted to block me. The seed is not the flower, and the flower is not the fruit. The fruit is not the result of changes in the seed. In each case there are patterns to be filled. The pattern contains the material—change that to data—for the physical material to follow. When you consider this information in connection with an inner psychic reality, then you will see its supreme logic.

(The above change that Seth made in mid-sentence is, to the best of my recall, the first he has ever so made. Jane was still sitting down as she spoke, facing me across our living room table.)

I do, incidentally, consider rather frequent consultation with the pendulum on personal matters. Ruburt will not block personal data always in our sessions. I mean that. He will grow more trusting with me in this respect. In the meantime the pendulum should prove excellent.

(Tuesday 6/9, 8:30 PM: This involved something new for me, and may be significant. First I had my usual thrilling sensation at the suggestion of lightness, once I had attained the desired state of light trance. Then, I became aware that I was watching and listening to a man in a light gray business suit. I saw him from the waist up, from a position just in back of his right side. I saw his profile. He had brown hair combed straight back, almost a double chin, a sharp nose and high forehead, and in his right hand he held a microphone; he was talking into it, giving a lecture on something to do with weights. The figure 700 was used, I recall. I heard his voice, which was pleasant and somewhat deep, quite clearly, and understood his remarks, but again forgot them as quickly as I heard them. I could not tell if he was with others or not.

(However, I then succeeded in doing something I had wanted to do for a long time. I remembered to ask his name, and as I did so I discovered it was no effort at all. The man replied, without turning around, that it was Daniel Murphy. I then asked his age; he said 42. I then told him my name, and he repeated it. After this I believe I asked him to contact me, but this becomes fuzzy and vague. There was more but it was indistinct and is totally forgotten now. But this is the first instance I was able to follow Seth’s advice and attempt to impress my presence upon others when I had the chance.