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TES2 Session 60 June 8, 1964 8/61 (13%) matter permanent properties deterioration growth
– The Early Sessions: Book 2 of The Seth Material
– © 2012 Laurel Davies-Butts
– Session 60 June 8, 1964 9 PM Monday as Instructed

[... 10 paragraphs ...]

I mentioned earlier that these sessions involved a lifetime’s work, as long of course as you are both willing. The times of sessions may change, adjustments being made for various reasons. You will also receive help sometimes where you least expect it. The work will be published, and Ruburt will also use it as a basis for his own writings.

I prefer that he keep highly informed. His own interests propel him in this direction, and because of the way in which we are working together, it is advantageous for him to become acquainted with as much knowledge in a number of fields as he is capable of assimilating. If we were using the very deep trance state then indeed this would not be necessary, but for your own benefits I prefer as much cooperation on your parts as possible, and like to work with an assimilation of knowledge by the whole self.

[... 1 paragraph ...]

This process is carried out unconsciously, and yet if mankind follows through then he will become consciously aware of his own part in this continual creation of matter, and he will be able to continue in a much more intelligent manner.

[... 25 paragraphs ...]

The nature of matter is an extremely difficult sore point in your scientific circles. Incidentally, for the benefit of the record: As yet Ruburt has read no books or information concerning the subject. This does not mean that he will not, or should not. To the contrary, since we have a gestalt here his conscious as well as subconscious grasp of information is important. We will take many leaps from it, and his familiarity with many subjects will actually help to make communication from me more automatic.

[... 2 paragraphs ...]

When you consider that behind all matter there is a conscious energy, then you will see where the pattern comes from. It is not the material that composes man, that gives him his identity. No physical nerve structure, or combination of purely chemical and material properties, will ever result in consciousness. The consciousness gives meaning to the physical material.

[... 8 paragraphs ...]

I will not get into Ruburt’s immediate past life, since he would slam the door in my face right now. Ruburt is now safely past his upset. You will both be on the upgrade, though you have been now for quite a while, Joseph; and you will, I imagine, discover a resulting dimension in your experiences with psychological time.

[... 5 paragraphs ...]

(Tuesday 6/9, 8:30 PM: This involved something new for me, and may be significant. First I had my usual thrilling sensation at the suggestion of lightness, once I had attained the desired state of light trance. Then, I became aware that I was watching and listening to a man in a light gray business suit. I saw him from the waist up, from a position just in back of his right side. I saw his profile. He had brown hair combed straight back, almost a double chin, a sharp nose and high forehead, and in his right hand he held a microphone; he was talking into it, giving a lecture on something to do with weights. The figure 700 was used, I recall. I heard his voice, which was pleasant and somewhat deep, quite clearly, and understood his remarks, but again forgot them as quickly as I heard them. I could not tell if he was with others or not.

(However, I then succeeded in doing something I had wanted to do for a long time. I remembered to ask his name, and as I did so I discovered it was no effort at all. The man replied, without turning around, that it was Daniel Murphy. I then asked his age; he said 42. I then told him my name, and he repeated it. After this I believe I asked him to contact me, but this becomes fuzzy and vague. There was more but it was indistinct and is totally forgotten now. But this is the first instance I was able to follow Seth’s advice and attempt to impress my presence upon others when I had the chance.

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